He just keeps going up in my estimation.

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    Remember a few months ago where there was that weird push to get people to dislike Pedro Pascal for some reason? It didn’t even have a source other than “He’s popular and in a lot of big stuff, so you must hate him.”

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        Oh, so douchebags hate him.

        I know he got in a fight or something with that woman that was on mandalorian and the 1st deadpool over trans rights because he was close to someone trans. I didn’t dive deeper into it since there was a clear ones a dirtbag and the other is chill.

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          No they didnt. They had a conversation, and she thanked him for talking to her. And that was it.

          The drama you hear about is from unhinged culture war weirdos, who want a constant battle all the time. What did happen, was that they started hounding her to put her pro nouns on her twitter bio. She said no, and they started sending her abuse tweets. A LOT of abuse tweets. At that point she put “beep/bop/beep”, which she explained at droid noises. But the culture warriors accused her of anti trans hate, and making fun of peoples pro nouns, and thats when the rape and death threats started.

          Its at this point that she posted the ill conceived post about Nazis creating an atmosphere where it was ok to hate and abuse Jewish people, to comment on the abuse she was getting and that twitter was doing nothing about it other than deleting the posts.

          The long and the short of it is that she posted a lot of really dumb right wing shit, and people went after her for it. And it got so bad that rape and death threats happened. This, IMO, was a too much. And everyone agreed when it happened to Laura Bailey, but for some reason, Gina chats shit so its fine that shes gets rape and death threats…

          Her posting the picture of the Jewish woman running through the streets though… That was right up there with Kevin Spaceys “I dont remember that happening, but if it did, Im sorry. Oh, and Im gay by the way.”.

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      He seems like a nice dude, but you never know, honestly.

      I love Conan, for example, and have been watching his show and listening to his podcast for years now, but I won’t delude myself into thinking I know him or what he stands for in his personal life.

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        Ya but Conan doesn’t stick his neck out to support marginalized people like Pascal does. I don’t know him personally, but all evidence points to Pascal being a good person.

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          Now, Im not making a connection here, so dont take it that I am. Im only addressing your point.

          Jimmy Saville. Put his neck out for kids for decades. Raised multiple millions over 40 years for various childrens charities and hospitals. Had tv shows, that made the wishes of children come true. Like meeting their heroes, or having once in a lifetime adventures.

          The whole time, he was raping kids. 40 fucking years of being a nation hero, and as soon as he died, it all came out. Generations of people LOVED that man. And he was one of the most prolific child molesters to ever have lived.

          mohab is right. You dont know any of these people. Grace Kelly once said “Hollywood amuses me. Holier-than-thou for the public and unholier-than-the-devil in reality.”. Do we really think thats changed? I mean, they all said nothing while Harvey was raping countless women. Why? Because their careers were more important. Even going so far as to praise the man in public.

          You can like what hollywood people say, but you should never forget that they are always saying things to be popular. Because being popular is what gets you money in hollywood.

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              It was. Theres many examples of people eluding to things, but not actually outright saying them. The reason being that the liable laws in the UK are that you need to prove what you are saying is true, rather than the American way of doing it which is that they need to prove you are lying.

              And while it was an open secret, they all still went on his show, took his requests, and perpetuated the lie that was Jimmy Saville. And thats the real issue. Those who seek fame and fortune have a miserable track record of doing the right thing. They only joined the metoo thing because it was advantageous to their careers. Same with this Kimmel thing. If social media wasnt all abuzz with it, they would be keeping their mouths shout.

              I will never, ever, understand why people look to celebrities to get their morality. You’d think the fact that Corey Feldman still cant name the people who raped him and Haim would say it all. Harvey was only the tip of the iceberg.

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            The absolute sickest thing about Savile was that he raped girls in hospitals. Like, he went to visit sick kids in hospitals and the people running the hospitals left him alone with the kids, knowing fully what he was going to do. It’s not just that Jimmy Savile was so disgusting, it’s that he was enabled by so many people for such a long time.

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      Pretty sure no one said “hate him”, just that he was turning up in everything. If you want to moan about the internet repeating things to a nauseating degree, you have my support. But the line for those things is LONG. And Pedro aint even at the front of the queue. “Nice” is.

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        I was feeling a bit supersaturated with Pedro Pascal recently, just because Last of Us season 2 had just aired and he was in both the new Fantastic Four movie and Eddington both in theaters at the same time, but I’ve never had a problem with the guy and I definitely love how outspoken he is about societal injustices.

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    Reminder that Pedro Pascal is related to Salvador Allande, democraticly elected communist whom the US overthrew and replaced with a fascist dictatorship.

    The coup involved flying a plane into the Capitol on 9/11, 1971

    Edit: 1973, and a plane flying missiles into the capitol building.

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    At the current rate things are deteriorating, I reckon Pedro Pascal has about 3 months left of being a US citizen :(

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    I’m a bit tired of seeing him in so much so suddenly, but if it’s going to be anyone I’m glad it’s someone as moral as Pascal.

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    Dude is aware of what it’s like living in dictatorship in his ancestral country of Chile.

    Hang on, Brazil rebuffed Trump’s strong arming to go easy on Bolsonaro. And Pedro having the big balls to stand up to Trump. There seems to be pattern of two countries that suffered under a dictatorship. Who again supported the dictatorship in these countries before?

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    Might as well just change the headline to say: “Pedro Pascal is on the right side of history” because like most others here on the federated internet he knows what’s up and for him it probably started with his sister coming out.

    All it takes is a little wake up call.

    And now I’m thinking of the movie The Matrix again…

    And if you’re looking to support Pedro Pascal, may I interest you in this little (scifi-western) independent film he made with Sophie Thatcher?

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    Maybe Disney didn’t expect the subscription backlash and it’s trying to reduce losses by asking it’s spokespeople to give them a reason to “cave”

    Maybe it’s just Pascal being a good dude. Hard to know sadly, hope it’s the 🪜.

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    the only way to hurt disney is people cancelling thier disney+, espn, hulu plus subscription. it will be hard for marvel and SW fans to cancel it, since thier so addicted to the franchises. there is a reason why disney is shoveling so much MARVEL garbage to the streams, its keeping ti afloat.

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      it will be hard for marvel and SW fans to cancel it

      …You must not have seen to much of that stuff of late… Its not gonna be the Sophies choice you think it is.

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      “They are” doesn’t have an “i”.

      To conjoin those two words, you delete the “a” from “are”, replace it with an apostrophe, and push them up together, getting: “they’re”

      They are

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      Well it’s not the only way, Disney was a company much before streaming services. The streaming part is low hanging fruit though.

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      the only way to hurt disney is people cancelling thier disney+, espn, hulu plus subscription.

      Can they keep going to the parks, watching the movies in theater, and buying the merch?

      Cause streaming isn’t a significant part of their business.

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        If a number goes down, even a little, on any one of their ever increasing revenue inputs, it’s enough to panic investors

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          People have been saying that since Biden. But so much of the capital is tied up in Hedge Funds and at such a high price point that there’s not a lot of people to sell it to.

          Dumping stock only makes sense when there’s someone to take your bags. If you don’t have a designated mark (the US Treasury during the '08 collapse, for instance, or the recent 10% stake in Intel that the government just took) then all you can do is hold.

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      He’s out of a job so he needs to look slobby and disheveled!! News articles have always gotta choose a picture that fits the way they want to portray the person’s response to the situation, even if it’s actually from years ago. It’s one of my favorite things to see because it’s just so funny.

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    Is this guy ever anything but awesome?

    I don’t want to see him in all the things, but I’m damn not complaining about how much he’s in.

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    LOL if he cared about Disney ethics he wouldn’t have been making movies for them in the first place.

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      Oh. My. God. Eye Roll

      “[Actor/Actress] speaks out against Disney / in support of Kimmel”

      Lemmy:

      • Well, what about [other actors/actresses]? Imagine if it was them saying this. Why are they so quiet?
      • It would be more meaningful if they actually had a show on Disney right now. Since they don’t, it’s just performative theater.
      • [Actor active with Disney speaks out] If he cared about Disney ethics, he wouldn’t be making movies for them anyway.

      Can we not just appreciate the high-profile support here? Is nothing ever good enough for you people? What does it freaking take to satisfy you??

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        They must simultaneously both work on major current projects AND abstain from interacting with Disney, ever, to sustain the moral high ground. 🫨🫡

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          Well to be fair their chosen profession is nothing more than a pillar of the institutions that keep the poor poor and the rich rich. It’s not really art at their level of fame and influence no matter the “good” they do. I’ll take my downvotes though.

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              I didn’t say acting wasn’t art as an art form; I said at their level it isn’t art. It’s propaganda. It’s capitalism. It’s whatever the company that makes the multibillion dollar blockbuster says it is.

              Look, you and many others aren’t going to see it from my perspective. You get to hide behind the shield of “ART IS ART” when in reality that isn’t the case in many instances. If Pedro Pascal wants to take his huge pay checks from Marvel, a Disney owned company, and side with trans people and free speech etc that’s fine. But I don’t see how that’s a genuine representation of the quality of the man. He could stop doing the big budget, focus group approved movies and stick to indies or be super selective of the projects he takes and cement his perceived quality, but he won’t and you guys won’t judge him for it because at the end of the day he’s well liked and really that’s all that matters to people. People hate being forced to look at things/people they like in this way. It’s natural and causes that uncomfortable cognitive dissonance feeling, but at the end of it you still get to go “oh well I still love him and his art is wonderful and this guy on the Internet is just a sad nutjob and he’s the problem so I can ignore his opinion” and go about your lives.

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          All they have to do is shut the fuck up. No one should care about their opinions. The moral high ground was lost when they started working for one of the most ethically corrupt companies on the planet.

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              I just blocked the instance. I’m not judging based on that since the instances that do block ml are (still) the minority. Tankies notwithstanding, there are too many communities people would FOMO about if an instance were to defed from ml.

              That said, I would happily support the admins’ decision to do so if they ever decide to, but I’m not gonna insist they do since I can block it myself

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        Is nothing ever good enough for you people? What does it freaking take to satisfy you??

        Here’s my unpopular opinion: people like what you describe are merely the other side of the zealot coin that is shared by MAGAts and the conservatives they purport to hate.

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        Generally important to remember that groups are not homogenous. Lemmy isn’t saying all of those things, up to three separate groups of people on Lemmy are.

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          Not wrong, but that’s 3 separate groups all with the same “nothing is ever good enough” / “perfect is the enemy of good” / “purity testing” attitude.

          It gets old fast, but it usually manifests in smaller doses over a longer period of time. With all the support coming in for Kimmel the last few days, and these people and their constant nitpickig and negging on everything, I’ve reached my limit of that kind of attitude far faster than I can recover.

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        Capt. Janeway, Ensign Kim has been making inappropriate overtures towards seven of nine, and it’s making her uncomfortable. After your clear and rational argument regarding the Mandalorian guy, what do we do?

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        I don’t know what that’s supposed to mean. Disney is a notoriously shitty company.

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          There have been multiple different articles posted like this one of various actors throwing in support for Kimmel / admonishing Disney. A good chunk of the replies to those posts are in the exact vein (or closely paraphrased) in my comment above and yours to which I replied. The common theme is nitpicking and whining and nothing ever being good enough.

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            Multiple people are making similar comments because it’s NOT good enough.

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          I’m struggling to think of a single large corporation that hasn’t done something shitty like engaging in questionable labor practices, curbed unionization, influenced lawmakers to weaken worker/consumer/environmental protections, gave CEOs massive salaries while cutting healthcare options etc…

          I know there are some exceptions to the rule, but we can’t all work at those (probably what, like, three?) companies.

          Capitalism will swallow the human side of every paying position eventually.

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            Just because they’ve all done shitty things doesn’t mean they’re all equally shitty.

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          Yeah, why do famous actors always work for big companies, why can’t famous actors only ever work for small independent companies? Since in this binary world, if something isn’t perfectly 1, it might as well be 0. You shouldn’t have a single fault, or you are faulty. You should be able to walk through the mud without getting dirty.

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            I think what you’re trying to say here is that if actors worked for small independent companies that they wouldn’t be famous. However you’re not considering the other side of that coin, which is that if they actually did that, they would either make those small companies into big ones, or make the big ones (like Disney) more ethical. But Disney gets to remain the big unethical company because no one cares about anything but money.

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              No no no. You see, we have to accept that Disney is the top dog, there´s nothing we can do about it. Pay them to watch Pedro revive their dying Star Wars IP for them and feel good about all his bravery both on and off-screen