cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/29037456
I feel like this is relevant to the sub. If not, feel free to remove.
these idiots have been so spoonfed that they’ve mentally swapped factory jobs and union jobs, and think it’s the factory bringing good conditions and satisfying work
These people live in the delusion of the 1950’s being a Golden Utopia of America. Minorities knew their place, gays stayed in Narnia, women kept their mouths shut and stayed in the kitchen, kids were mindless obedient extensions of their fathers, and everything was just… Perfect.
Except for the high income taxes. Fuck that.
I see these MAGA morons getting excited about the return of high-paying manufacturing jobs, because they have absolutely no Critical Thinking Skills, and they haven’t asked themselves the most basic question - if corporations have the opportunity to rebuild the manufacturing base in America, why would they recreate the model that sent manufacturing overseas in the first place? Wouldn’t they use this unique opportunity to create an entirely new model? And would that model benefit the workers, or the corporation?
The simple facts are, there will be two models in the new American manufacturing environment. The first will be factories that will rely heavily on automation/ robotics, and need very few humans. The second will be modeled after Asian sweatshops, with low pay, no benefits, forced overtime with no OT pay, child/teen labor, no health/safety/environmental regulations, etc.
The MAGA Nazis know this, but they are still selling the fantasy of high-paying factory jobs that even a stupid MAGA can do. I get that, they are disengenuous to the core, but why aren’t Dems or the media screaming about this, and asking MAGA Nazis in every interview?
Nothing you tell a MAGA, that doesn’t sound like you worship their dear leader, will sink into their thick skulls.
They could literally be chained to a sewing machine working the 95th hour that week, paid $1 per hour and they would still claim they were winning (or at least owning the libs).
So they’re saying they want us to die on the job. That might be okay for some but I still want to at least pretend to retire before I croak
Wow the AI meme from earlier this week, with the humans inside and the robots painting and doing creative work, it became too real
To be fair, this is what this government promised. The issue is that the voters just took it in
That poll showing 80% of voters want manufacturing jobs to come back to America but 20% of voters would willingly choose to work a factory job says everything.
I actually don’t want to work at a factory. I want robots to do that for me and I want the products to be cheap so I can buy cool stuff to do more interesting things.
Like I don’t want to weld parts and stuff, I want to make lasers from those parts.
I don’t want to melt glass. I want to use lenses to make images.
I don’t want to dig for shit. I want to use that stuff to make rocket fuel.
We don’t want factory jobs. We want technology jobs.
But someone, somewhere is doing the grunt work. We’re nowhere near replacing manual labor. Hell, a robot with 10x our current capabilities couldn’t do my dumbass job at Lowe’s, and it certainly couldn’t talk to customers with decades of DIY and plant experience.
And BTW, I’m with you on all the above. Bet we’d be tight.
America was isolated from WW2 and joined at the end on their terms and for their benefit thanks to their location/geography. America will easily self-isolate and go full V for Vendetta (white [Germanic? Anglo Saxon? I feel like Germanic covers both] ethnonationalism, as usual) until it eventually balkanizes.
But Americans are honestly the dumbest people I’ve ever met, seeming almost challenged in their happy ignorance, so what can Americans by themselves do against their owners and through hardship? Israelis bomb Palestine through Ramadan and the communities still break their fast together in the rubble of their homes; Americans can’t afford something they’ve been advertised but definitely don’t need and will start selling drugs, their bodies (OF has made it easier than ever too!) and, finally, their souls. I can’t see them doing anything besides murdering when they have the upper hand and assenting in fear when they don’t, and I definitely don’t see them getting together productively.
America was isolated from WW2 and joined at the end on their terms and for their benefit thanks to their location/geography.
That was WWI, they were in WWII from the start.
The US was most certainly NOT part of WW2 from the start.
We provided aid early in the war through our lend-lease programs, but the US made it a point to stay out of the war. That changed after Pearl Harbor.
Okay “from the start” was wrong on my part, but they were an active combatant for most of the war.
At least your mistake was mostly just a factual error and fairly easy to correct. The person you were commenting to though… I don’t even know where to begin.
Fucking… geography, is why we joined WWII? Really? And everything else is just a screed, it’s not even worth reading.
They joined the European war late, haven’t been around for the most of it time-wise.
They joined in 1943, 68% of time in.
The Germans lost less people fighting against the US in Europe total than in the Battle of Stalingrad.
The reason Trumps idea appeals to people for those unaware is that free trade destroyed a lot of union jobs, which were outsourced to emerging markets. After the industrial revolution unions fought for worker rights and salaries, and they were then shipped away to places that didnt have those rights, and they want to see a reversal of this.
Not sure if its right or wrong, but you cant fault them for holding out hope, its actually a left wing ideal I would say, large government protectionism interfering in the free market. Saying that all factory jobs are bad is a silly retort, there are many factory jobs in the US already that people are happy to have; even ASML making advanced semiconductor fabs is a “factory job”.
Saying that all factory jobs are bad is a silly retort,
Who’s saying that?
They’re still so certain we’re having grandkids… Who’s gonna tell them?
It might not be you, but it will be children having children with abortion bans and lack of sex education.
