Hey, it’s 80% of reported violent crime. We’re just better at it and don’t get caught, obvs.
The real reason women love true crime podcasts: learning from the mistakes of others
And watching all the men fail
Sometimes minor league ball is a more interesting game.
I am officially calling true crime tv “the minor leagues”
There were several generations of women that killed abusive husbands in ways that looked like accidents.
Hey, it’s 80% of reported violent crime
Police are already abysmal at actually documenting reported crimes. That’s double so when it runs against the toxic reactionary attitudes common to these departments.
80% of violent crime? Cute. Lesbians are busy cornering the space crime market (allegedly).
That was a fake, just so you’re aware. Still hilarious as a meme.
oh… I guess it’s true what they say… never meet your heroes…
Be the lesbian space crime you want to see I guess?
Be gay. Do space crime
Law and Order: Lesbian Space Crime Unit
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But but but if they did 80% then MEN wouldn’t be taken seriously!!!
How so? They can both do 80%. This will increase the total number of crimes to 160% but that’s a sacrifice I’m willing to pay to protect equality, the second amendment and the free world.
🎸🇺🇸🦅
FUCK YEAH!
That’s not how maths works.
[Excuse me while I “mansplain”] But if women want to increase their violent crimes to match men’s, they need to increase by an additional 300%. This would result in a total increase of violent crimes of 60% more violent crime.
C’mon girls! Try harder!
Do your part to achieve equality!
Then maybe men can cease being expected to open doors, put toilet seats down, put women and children first, die in wars, buy dinner and flowers, carry all the heavy things, fend off attackers, fix everything, [(quietly)] die younger, thrive without emotional support, be sole provider as a trad-hubby gentleman sigma-male feminist-ally bad-boy softie stoic emoting funny but only in a specific way and tall but not too tall and looking good with a six-pack without spending time working on it and whatever else in the cluster of impossible contradictions, alone.
Nah, bitches love my gut
So who’s committing the final 80% of crime then? Nonbinary people?
80% (women) + 80% (men) + 80% (non binary) + 80% (pets) = 160% (total)
math checks out.
What about children. Why won’t anyone ever think of the children!!!???!
Children aren’t allowed to do crime. It’s illegal for them
Fascist!!!
Don’t blame me, I don’t make the rules
that’s why we call them innocent.
>makes ragebait post for men
>laughs at men getting ragebaited
>pretends like ragebaiting people is progressive in any way
Is this ragebait? I’m a man and I thought it was funny. This is the kind of thing I would say to the feminists I know.
Its funny to everyone who can handle a joke.
And they’ve always gotta be the victim. 🙄
I mean jokes are fine but this kinda borders on bad taste
If it helps at all, it’s not entirely true, statistically, just very slightly funny when not explained. Men are like 75% of the victims in homicides and lead in other violent crimes, if my Googling is correct. Women do lead in other categories, though, so it’s still competitive. I’m not trying to take anything away from anybody. But I also admit “borders on bad taste” is pretty much the line I walk.
You reminded me of a dead stupid subway sign I saw once, it was about the fact 1 in 4 homeless were women, which don’t get me wrong everyone deserves a home, but it was so tone deaf in delivery it felt like unintentional parody
So men are unfairly discriminating against women by excluding them from their murders?! It never ends with these jerks!
14%
Prudish much?
I have to imagine that it was also a joke. I see it as a continuation of the original joke
Why? It’s factual. According to men, it’s always a woman’s fault.
According to men
We polled 2.5 men and they all agreed
Aren’t men much more likely to fight each other than a woman?
Not me, I’ll fight any woman. Probably won’t win, but that doesn’t make me any less brave.
I prefer to beat up children, I like to see the fear in their eyes
Quoting crime statistics based on gender:
Quoting crime statistics based on race:
Quoting crime statistics based on race, like the old “13/50” trope, is often used to enforce racist notions that minority groups are inherently bad people. It’s punching down at marginalized people.
This meme, at least as I see it, is the opposite. It’s satirizing the usual crap from the anti-feminist crowd claiming that women are inherently inferior. It’s punching up at sexist men.
So…statistics are only valid when they promote your ideals?
Or is it that, in your mind, the stats that don’t run parallel with your ideals have obviously been misinterpreted or fudged?
Just trying to figure out your stance on statistical data.
Stats are valid when they are used in the proper context and are not being misrepresented. For example, Black and Native American people account for a disproportionate number of drowning deaths in the US. But it would be irresponsible to simply conclude that those groups are inherently bad swimmers. Just like the way the 13/50 trope is irresponsibly used to imply non-whites are inherently more prone to criminal behavior.
All that aside, this meme isn’t attacking men. It’s attacking sexist tropes used against women.
All that aside, this meme isn’t attacking men. It’s attacking sexist tropes used against women.
Nah, it’s a sexist joke. But it’s funny because “Haha, men bad”.
It’s equivalent to making a joke like this: “Men do care about their feelings. Feeling their dick being sucked”
I think this one might have gone over your head mate.
Which part? The fact that OP made a sexist joke, or the part where Lemmy(in general) is vitriolic in response to certain statistics?
Statistics are just numbers. What matters is how they are used. Anyone who has studied stats knows that it’s common to craft misleading conclusions from real data.
So what is the “right” way to use them?
So long as they are helping the “downtrodden”* it’s ok to see the numbers differently?
I have studied statistics. In my studies I learned that numbers do not lie, people lie. And, as was stated before, people can manipulate numbers to match their narrative.
I’ve seen studies published as “fact” just because the author manipulated the numbers to match their findings.
This is what we should base our outlook on?
*in this instance, “downtrodden” refers to the person or group deemed savable by those who are looking to be a savior.
I’ve seen critically reviewed papers that mouth breathers like you are taking up too much oxygen. You should look at yourself in the mirror. How much does it hurt?
Statistics put men globally as being 81% of the victims of violent crime. And the perpetrators of that crime being less than 1% of the male population. So to put it another way, youre making the same argument as racists when they claim that all black guys sell drugs because some black guy sold them a joint one time.
This is just yet another in a long line of “men bad” memes, in an online society that accepts and celebrates bigotry.
You only have one countrr argument, dammit and you’re going to use it!
It’s specious and fallacious but it’s all you’ve got!
Holding up a mirror to your own hypocrisy.
Not even close there captain fallacy
Oh? then let me make a counter-joke so you get the point.
“Want to be equal to whites. Can’t stop being the majority of murderers, by capita.”
With a black guy sitting there.
Do you think that is funny?
Always gotta go to the black guys, don’tcha
Do you think it’s funny?
Your attempts at false comparisons? Buddy it’s laugh or cry
For real
Don’t worry, we men are already evening out the odds by getting our panties twisted in a bunch over a clever meme.
Checkmate feminists.
That’s because you’re measuring physical violence, not psychological. We skate under the radar once again.
Pathetic. Get in the game, women.
Imagine running an excavator with a hard hat on like you don’t have ROPS/FOPS.
“ROPS (Roll-Over Protective Structure) and FOPS (Falling Object Protective Structure) are safety features integrated into heavy machinery to protect operators.”
For everyone else unfamiliar with those acronyms!
Thank you!!
You do realize everyone has to wear a hard hat on a construction site by osha safety standards right?
The crane operators I work with defintely dont.
They are above the rules. Unless you’re on one of the cranes with the security cameras
No theyre just supposed to.
I’m googling OSHA and it seems to be some American thing, not a global rule?
Don’t other countries have their own Oshas just called Something else?
If you are talking globally then using a country specific name for it seems confusing
But just because you are talking on a global forum doesn’t mean you can’t talk about your personal experience
You were talking to someone else though, not just saying how it is for you
What do you mean? We’re just describing what we see in the picture and how it compares to our lived experience.
Does your country have an osha or can people go to construction sites without hardhats, or do you have a regulating body but hardhats aren’t required / the rules aren’t enforced?
Saying OSHA is like saying Kleenex to us, we don’t even realize it is a brand name. It has become the generic term in our en_us language anyway.
That’s what the FOPS is for.
Sure it is a redundant protection but as a longtime journey level construction worker I can tell you you still have to wear a hard hat on construction sites anywhere on site
As a long time equipment operator who puts their hard hat on only outside of the equipment, okay.
I know in my area this hard hat rule is strictly enforced.
Do we have Americans (no rules) vs Canadians (actual safety) going on in this discussion?
Sometimes Canada goes overboard. In Ontario you need to wear a hard hat to plant trees.
Safety does not apply to immigrants.
No offense but we just moved from everyone on a construction site needs one to the construction sites in your area needs one.
I wouldn’t have disagreed with you if you started with that.
I know cal osha requires everyone at all times needs a hard hat on a construction site. I don’t work small private residential cal osha may be more strict on bigger jobs but it is an osha requirement here so I assumed it was a federal osha policy. I know it was definitely covered in my osha 10 and OSHA 30 courses. I was also an instructor for my trade union and this is what is taught in the nationwide union curriculum and yes any heavy equipment we use we have to wear a hard hat while operating nationwide In my trade.
You still wear your cup throughout the whole shift though right?
FOPS isn’t going to help if one of those violent criminals tomahawk-throws a framing hammer at your head!
I, for one, for sure, would be grateful for the hard hat in a ROPS event. Even a FOPS event.
You’d need a chin strap for the hat to stay on if you’re upside down.
True.
Especially when wearing one that’s too big and loose.
Could be in and out of the machine often at a site/plant that requires it outside and doesn’t bother to take it off?
The reality is that it’s probably a photoshoot
I think the brand-newness of her clothes and hard hat, as well as full makeup, indicate that it’s a photo shoot and she is not actually an equipment operator.
Yup. Beat me to it. In and out, easiest place to keep it, still on your head.
I can just imagine it now. Me, in my little hard hat, on a big ol excavator, paying no mind to the ROPS/FOPS overhead, completely safe from all the debris that wants nothing more than to crack open my noggin, excavating to my hearts content!
Oh what a day that would be!
Imagine getting out of the excavator to go to the loo and getting hit in the head by a brick.
Imagine not putting on a hard hat when you’re no longer protected by ROPS/FOPS.
I cannot find my glasses when I am wearing them. I don’t think I am going to put a hardhat on when I forgot I am not wearing it.
You need pretty good situational awareness in construction, doubly so when you’re operating heavy equipment.
And the hat doesn’t even have a strap
Gonna be trotting out the ol’ 13/50 next?
But this one is accurate and that one is white suprematist nonsense.
“You see, the problem with racism is the statistics are incorrect. If the science behind it is solid, bigotry is actually fine.”
That is not what your moral and intellectual superior said or implied.
“You see, as you better, my opinion is above reproach by the likes of you. I am a progressive.”
Nope, you’re just wrong.
“You see, I’m better than others, and my opinions are correct, whatever they are. I have never reflected on this.”
🤣🤣🤣
Would the stat be alright if it was actually factual? Because not all of the stats racists use are false you know
If my grandmother had wheels she would have been a bike. Y’all are some stupid motherfuckers.
More like, want to have the same outcome as men at 80% of the effort.
Or am I making a shitty effort meme that mimics OP? If you’re offended by this joke and not by OP, think of your own bias.
OP is a lighthearted joke that punches up, whereas yours was the opposite. Maybe think about your own biases, jackass.
how the fuck is attacking men punching “up”? Are men a monolith in your world?
We’re not a monolith but I am aware of some facts about us, like we’re statistically more likely to have shorter hair and take more dangerous jobs and commit violence—none of which offend me although the third one is incredibly disappointing.
I believe I can see where you’re coming from. That said I would be interested in reading a bit more about your perspective on why this meme attacks men. Thank ya
Lets take the worst black man in the world, and then apply his actions to the whole… Lets take the worst woman in the world, and then apply her actions to the whole… Lets take the worst… You get the idea. The lack of nuance in arguments is why a lot women think that men are all totally safe walking home at night. Worse, they think they are at great danger walking home at night, when the statistics say that they are in FAR more danger when they get home. And thats with underreporting of violence in the home.
I mean, men are also victims 81% of the time according to the UNODC. We get 100% of the blame for the crimes, but 0% of the outcry for being the victims of that crime. And everyone seems real fucking comfortable being bigoted as fuck when it comes to men. And the actual number is 91% of violent crimes is done by men, but the % of men that are violent criminals is between 0.3 and 0.6%. So 100% of men globally endure hate and bigotry because of the actions of less than 1% of the total. Does that sound like “punching up” to you?
Hush you. Men are supposed to just take it. Women and children first.
No emotional support for men. Keep the demands on them. Keep berating them for striving to meet those demands. Keep taking away their ability to support a family. Keep demanding them to. Keep judging men with the hasty generalisation fallacy, ignoring the statistical outliers. Keep men dying younger. Keep saying “patriarchy” like all men are all advantaged rulers. ;-}
Replace “men” with just about any protected class, and this statistic with another one that reflezcts comparably on that group.
Yes! Black people are far more likely to go to prison in the US! We white people need to work on that!
Yeah, (as I recall) that bigoted bias in USA gets even more damning when looking at the victim’s demographics instead.
The Karens cry loudest, like they’re the only victims, or like they’re magnanimously mending the situation for everybody, when they’re already the 1%ers of victim pride.
Fair, thank you
Is it really punching up though? The victim complex is part of the bias, jackass.
Although it might have been funnier to make it 20% effort.
Dude
Yeah dude. How can they be expected to be taken seriously with a mere 20%. Slackers.
Don’t women think it as a bit demeaning to think that they’re universally and categorically below men when it comes to jokes?
Studies have shown that males are jailed with 8:2 ratio compared to their female counterparts!
We demand equal prison female population for equal criminal efforts! Just because I’m a woman, does not make me an inferior criminal! lmao…!
Clearly this just shows bias towards sentencing men to prison smdh my head
There is a lot of that happening. Pick a crime and look at the statistics.
Additionally, women are less likely to be charged for many crimes like domestic assault.
Jordan? Is that you?
Man you need to be more concerned with your jokes being funny than being offensive
Good, so you agree that OP made a shitty meme too? I just made the same joke but reversed it.
Men are so butt hurt lol can’t even take a joke without crying like a little baby 😂
So sexist jokes are only funny when men are the target? Fucking hypocrite.
The fuck is this foolishness
The rambling nonsense of an incel manbaby. I should have been tipped off by the username, must have been sleepy.
Oh dear. Another armchair phychologist that has never heard of Nikola Tesla. Had this nick since well before the car company started.
Not that you deserve an explanation, but i saw a tesla coil as a kid and thought it was the coolest thing in the world. That and dinosaurs. Mix them up, draw a couple of pictures in paint on Windows 3.1 and boom: Enter to the teslasaur. Dino that shoots lightning.
You’re a dickhead
And all i had to do is perform 80% of all crimes!
what’s unnerving is that there lots of POW reports that indicate that women showcase far more cruelty towards female POWs compared to men.
Studies have also shown women in power tend to block more women from being promoted to positions of power.
now that’s girl power!
What are those studies ?
Who wrote them ?? How do you explain affirmative action, #MeToo & DEI then ?
I am just a 5’ honey badger waiting for my moment. Closest call was that time Jehovah witnesses peered into my car while I was alone at night outside of a store. Turns out they are easily frightened when you hold your car horn down long enough though.
