Quoting crime statistics based on gender:
Quoting crime statistics based on race:
Quoting crime statistics based on race, like the old “13/50” trope, is often used to enforce racist notions that minority groups are inherently bad people. It’s punching down at marginalized people.
This meme, at least as I see it, is the opposite. It’s satirizing the usual crap from the anti-feminist crowd claiming that women are inherently inferior. It’s punching up at sexist men.
So…statistics are only valid when they promote your ideals?
Or is it that, in your mind, the stats that don’t run parallel with your ideals have obviously been misinterpreted or fudged?
Just trying to figure out your stance on statistical data.
Stats are valid when they are used in the proper context and are not being misrepresented. For example, Black and Native American people account for a disproportionate number of drowning deaths in the US. But it would be irresponsible to simply conclude that those groups are inherently bad swimmers. Just like the way the 13/50 trope is irresponsibly used to imply non-whites are inherently more prone to criminal behavior.
All that aside, this meme isn’t attacking men. It’s attacking sexist tropes used against women.
All that aside, this meme isn’t attacking men. It’s attacking sexist tropes used against women.
Nah, it’s a sexist joke. But it’s funny because “Haha, men bad”.
It’s equivalent to making a joke like this: “Men do care about their feelings. Feeling their dick being sucked”
I think this one might have gone over your head mate.
Which part? The fact that OP made a sexist joke, or the part where Lemmy(in general) is vitriolic in response to certain statistics?
Statistics are just numbers. What matters is how they are used. Anyone who has studied stats knows that it’s common to craft misleading conclusions from real data.
So what is the “right” way to use them?
So long as they are helping the “downtrodden”* it’s ok to see the numbers differently?
I have studied statistics. In my studies I learned that numbers do not lie, people lie. And, as was stated before, people can manipulate numbers to match their narrative.
I’ve seen studies published as “fact” just because the author manipulated the numbers to match their findings.
This is what we should base our outlook on?
*in this instance, “downtrodden” refers to the person or group deemed savable by those who are looking to be a savior.
I’ve seen critically reviewed papers that mouth breathers like you are taking up too much oxygen. You should look at yourself in the mirror. How much does it hurt?
Statistics put men globally as being 81% of the victims of violent crime. And the perpetrators of that crime being less than 1% of the male population. So to put it another way, youre making the same argument as racists when they claim that all black guys sell drugs because some black guy sold them a joint one time.
This is just yet another in a long line of “men bad” memes, in an online society that accepts and celebrates bigotry.
You only have one countrr argument, dammit and you’re going to use it!
It’s specious and fallacious but it’s all you’ve got!
Holding up a mirror to your own hypocrisy.
Not even close there captain fallacy
Oh? then let me make a counter-joke so you get the point.
“Want to be equal to whites. Can’t stop being the majority of murderers, by capita.”
With a black guy sitting there.
Do you think that is funny?
Always gotta go to the black guys, don’tcha
Do you think it’s funny?
Your attempts at false comparisons? Buddy it’s laugh or cry
For real
>makes ragebait post for men
>laughs at men getting ragebaited
>pretends like ragebaiting people is progressive in any way
Is this ragebait? I’m a man and I thought it was funny. This is the kind of thing I would say to the feminists I know.
Its funny to everyone who can handle a joke.
That’s because you’re measuring physical violence, not psychological. We skate under the radar once again.
Don’t worry, we men are already evening out the odds by getting our panties twisted in a bunch over a clever meme.
And they’ve always gotta be the victim. 🙄
I mean jokes are fine but this kinda borders on bad taste
If it helps at all, it’s not entirely true, statistically, just very slightly funny when not explained. Men are like 75% of the victims in homicides and lead in other violent crimes, if my Googling is correct. Women do lead in other categories, though, so it’s still competitive. I’m not trying to take anything away from anybody. But I also admit “borders on bad taste” is pretty much the line I walk.
You reminded me of a dead stupid subway sign I saw once, it was about the fact 1 in 4 homeless were women, which don’t get me wrong everyone deserves a home, but it was so tone deaf in delivery it felt like unintentional parody
So men are unfairly discriminating against women by excluding them from their murders?! It never ends with these jerks!
14%
Prudish much?
I have to imagine that it was also a joke. I see it as a continuation of the original joke
Why? It’s factual. According to men, it’s always a woman’s fault.
According to men
We polled 2.5 men and they all agreed
Aren’t men much more likely to fight each other than a woman?
Not me, I’ll fight any woman. Probably won’t win, but that doesn’t make me any less brave.
I prefer to beat up children, I like to see the fear in their eyes
Pathetic. Get in the game, women.
Cheap ragebaits huh ?? There are better ways to garner attention buddy.
I am just a 5’ honey badger waiting for my moment. Closest call was that time Jehovah witnesses peered into my car while I was alone at night outside of a store. Turns out they are easily frightened when you hold your car horn down long enough though.
what’s unnerving is that there lots of POW reports that indicate that women showcase far more cruelty towards female POWs compared to men.
Studies have also shown women in power tend to block more women from being promoted to positions of power.
now that’s girl power!
What are those studies ?
Who wrote them ?? How do you explain affirmative action, #MeToo & DEI then ?
Gonna be trotting out the ol’ 13/50 next?
But this one is accurate and that one is white suprematist nonsense.
“You see, the problem with racism is the statistics are incorrect. If the science behind it is solid, bigotry is actually fine.”
That is not what your moral and intellectual superior said or implied.
“You see, as you better, my opinion is above reproach by the likes of you. I am a progressive.”
Nope, you’re just wrong.
“You see, I’m better than others, and my opinions are correct, whatever they are. I have never reflected on this.”
🤣🤣🤣
Would the stat be alright if it was actually factual? Because not all of the stats racists use are false you know
If my grandmother had wheels she would have been a bike. Y’all are some stupid motherfuckers.
Everybody knows only black males such as myself commit crimes… : exits scene left when the black face starts to sweat off:
In terms of frequency, women are significantly worse than men; men more damage per physical act of violence.
In terms of emotional and psychological violence, women are so far ahead of the race they disappeared over the horizon.
[citation needed]
[citation needed]
People refusing to commit crimes deserve a raise.
Those who commit crimes should be living together aways from those who do not.
Hey, it’s 80% of reported violent crime. We’re just better at it and don’t get caught, obvs.
There were several generations of women that killed abusive husbands in ways that looked like accidents.
Hey, it’s 80% of reported violent crime
Police are already abysmal at actually documenting reported crimes. That’s double so when it runs against the toxic reactionary attitudes common to these departments.
The real reason women love true crime podcasts: learning from the mistakes of others
And watching all the men fail
Sometimes minor league ball is a more interesting game.
I am officially calling true crime tv “the minor leagues”
80% of violent crime? Cute. Lesbians are busy cornering the space crime market (allegedly).
That was a fake, just so you’re aware. Still hilarious as a meme.
oh… I guess it’s true what they say… never meet your heroes…
Be the lesbian space crime you want to see I guess?
Be gay. Do space crime
Law and Order: Lesbian Space Crime Unit
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