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  • buddascrayon@lemmy.world
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    11 hours ago

    Yes, but you have to consider the poor CEO’s and middle managers. They need to be able to strut around an office full of people and feel important. Plus there’s all that office space they leased for the next 30 years at a discount that they need to fill with workers to justify the expense!!

    It cruel to only consider the happiness of the slave class while ignoring the plight of the ruling class. Don’t you people know that?!?!?

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      11 hours ago

      During the pandemic our office was inspected and structurally condemned, so we literally have nowhere to go back to, the building is now a car park. It’s great.

      I wholeheartedly recommend black mould and a leaky roof to anyone that doesn’t want to go back, it might be hard to arrange but it definitely works.

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    12 hours ago

    The very fact that it is something that the workers want

    Is WHY Employers want to halt it.

    Too many Employers believe that anything the workers want is necessarily bad for Businesses … BECAUSE the workers want it

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    10 hours ago

    The return to office mandate is such an annoyance. I hope companies who did it suffer because of it.

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    17 hours ago

    Just gaining back all the commute time everyday is such a huge bonus for me. Nothing at an office can compare to that alone. And I get to add in a ton of other nice bonuses from being at home.

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      12 hours ago

      It may seem silly, but aside from commuting time the biggest advantage for me was being able to use my own bathroom. No bidets in the office washroom!

  • bieren@lemmy.zip
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    11 hours ago

    Must be banned!!! How dare Americans have a tiny bit of happiness. We must crush this before it gets out of control.

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    11 hours ago

    Not that shocking. Hell, there are millions of Americans who would kill just to work indoors. Office work is the envy of every farm and trade worker with aching feet and knees and various injuries they have to nurse while they labor. Working at home??? It’s absolute luxury.

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      Office work is the envy of every farm and trade worker

      This isn’t exactly true. There are, believe it or not, people who prefer to work outdoors and do heavy labor. Especially farm work. Some people aren’t really suited for office work. (pun intended)

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        10 hours ago

        A bit disingenuous to skip the part where their bodies are falling apart and they’re in constant pain.

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          This makes the false assumption that office workers don’t incur work related repetitive task injuries. Every lower class job, whether in an office or a field, comes with its own bodily injury index.

  • squaresinger@lemmy.world
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    18 hours ago

    Working from home has been the default for the last few millenia. Who would have thought that it could make people happier?

  • MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca
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    I both agree and disagree with the conclusions in the title…

    I agree that for many people, they’re happier, and likely more productive, working from home.

    I would also agree that for many different people, working from an office makes them happier/more productive.

    It entirely depends on the job, who you are, and the work culture. Some places are toxic and working from home to get away from it is helpful for job satisfaction. I’ve known people who simply focus better when they’re at the office since they have a lot of distractions at home. I know for me, the opposite is true. at home, I’m in control and can limit exposure to distractions, and I can be more productive, more comfortable and overall less unhappy with my job.

    IMO, this discussion is less about what companies want, whether work from home or hybrid, or in office … The main conclusion that we should be driving home is that different people need different environments to do their best work, and be happiest with their particular job. To put it simply: workers need to be able to choose.

    Until we’re at the stage where employers care less about how, and where you do the work, and they care more about the work getting done… We’re going to keep going back and forth on this.

    I like to work from home. That’s me.

    I know people who prefer to work from an office. There’s plenty of people who feel they work best from the office.

    There’s plenty of people that need to mix between home and office work.

    Bluntly: as long as you can do the work from where you’re working, and how you’re working, the rest should be flexible. We’re (presumably) adults and professionals. If we’re given work and we’re being paid to do the work, then we will do the work. We don’t need to be constantly supervised by middle management like toddlers.

    • Nalivai@lemmy.world
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      16 hours ago

      I like to work from home. That’s me.

      And there is, as it turns out, a lot of people like that. Doesn’t actually mean everyone is like that. But it does mean that being given this option, we, as humanity and as workers, are happier.
      Your reply reminds me that “I’m not pro-life or pro-choice, I just want people to be able to chose do they want to have an abortion or not”.

    • Oniononon@sopuli.xyz
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      24 hours ago

      I am more productive and less depressed working from site and if i work too much from home I get depressed and adhd kicks in and paralizes me.

      I don’t see how it benefits everyone not to allow people to work from home at the same time.

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        15 hours ago

        This is me too. I love my home. I’ve lived here a long time and have made this my ideal little place on the planet.

        I can be ridiculously hyperfocused and productive on my personal hobby projects at home. However, I cannot get jack shit done for work. I still like to work from home fairly often, but I go into the office on a regular basis. Fortunately, I live close to the office.

  • Zomg@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    It’s also nice eating out of your own fridge, using your own toilet, and everything else.

    • TheEntity@lemmy.world
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      What a silly thing to say. It’s merely prohibitively expensive. I mean, reasonably priced and readily available for those that deserve it.

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      Happiness breeds self esteem, self esteem breeds confidence, confidence breeds learning. Education, confidence, self esteem, and happiness are all antithetical to fear and obedience. We’re much easier to rule if we’re stressed out. Plus, the real reason for return to office is real estate value. It has nothing to do with worker morale or productivity.

    • the_q@lemmy.zip
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      1 day ago

      To be fair the pursuit of happiness in and of itself is an uncatchable carrot used to push the capitalist agenda. Happy moments are like sprinkles on a doughnut, few and far between. Contentment is what we should really be shooting for.

  • acargitz@lemmy.ca
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    I propose that the mods should take this post down, or at least point to the original post, that cmu.fr has obviously plagiarized.

    Here is what seems to be the original post: https://indiandefencereview.com/theyve-observed-teleworking-for-four-years-and-reached-one-clear-conclusion-working-from-home-makes-us-happier/

    The big difference is that the original article actually points to the study: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35379616/ where as the cmu.fr plagiarized version makes no reference whatsoever to the study. Just vague slop about “scientists”.

    That said, I think that even the original article miscaracterizes the paper. Here is the paper abstract:

    Objectives: To investigate the impacts, on mental and physical health, of a mandatory shift to working from home during the COVID-19 pandemic.

    Design: Cross sectional, online survey.

    Setting: Online survey was conducted from September 2020 to November 2020 in the general population.

    Participants: Australian residents working from home for at least 2 days a week at some time in 2020 during the COVID-19 pandemic.

    Main outcome measures: Demographics, caring responsibilities, working from home arrangements, work-related technology, work-family interface, psychosocial and physical working conditions, and reported stress and musculoskeletal pain.

    Results: 924 Australians responded to the online questionnaire. Respondents were mostly women (75.5%) based in Victoria (83.7%) and employed in the education and training and healthcare sectors. Approximately 70% of respondents worked five or more days from home, with only 60% having a dedicated workstation in an uninterrupted space. Over 70% of all respondents reported experiencing musculoskeletal pain or discomfort. Gendered differences were observed; men reported higher levels of family to work conflict (3.16±1.52 to 2.94±1.59, p=0.031), and lower levels of recognition for their work (3.75±1.03 to 3.96±1.06, p=0.004), compared with women. For women, stress (2.94±0.92 to 2.66±0.88, p<0.001) and neck/shoulder pain (4.50±2.90 to 3.51±2.84, p<0.001) were higher than men and they also reported more concerns about their job security than men (3.01±1.33 to 2.78±1.40, p=0.043).

    Conclusions: Preliminary evidence from the current study suggests that working from home may impact employees’ physical and mental health, and that this impact is likely to be gendered. Although further analysis is required, these data provide insights into further research opportunities needed to assist employers in optimising working from home conditions and reduce the potential negative physical and mental health impacts on their employees.

    Keywords: COVID-19; mental health; risk management.

    So, long story short: this article is slop, copied from another piece of slop that mischaracterized a study. Overall: meh.

  • WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works
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    A hard truth is that if you see an executive pushing return to office, you know one of two things about them. One of the following is true.

    1. They are terrible at finance and don’t understand the sunk-cost fallacy. They have to keep using that building they bought; they’ve spent so much on it and simply can’t bring themselves to sell it.

    2. They’re a sexual molester. They’re someone that uses the power of their position to coerce sex out of their employees. Fucking their employees is their primary motivation for not retiring early right now. You can’t coerce your secretary to give you a blowjob over Zoom.

    That’s really it. They’re either bad at business or they’re a sexual predator. If you see an executive pushing return to office, be sure to ask them which one of these they are. Because they’re definitely one or the other.

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          1. Remote didn’t work as well for the company.
          2. Remote didn’t work as well for any number of people at that company.
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              We have work from home, i have gone to the office twice this year. But it is true it didn’t work for everyone. Some left because of isolation factor, some fired because without anyone watching they just could not self motivate. In some case in-office meetings are way more productive, and you get those moments when a coworker overhears your convo and chimes in with something relevent that you would never have connection on in WFH

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                “Isolation factor” = you talk to people all day and don’t actually do anything productive

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                  I was being sensitive, we had some employees struggle mentally with being alone and without interaction. Some people did not have partners at home, so work was their contact with the world. With that gone, issues arose.

                  But I get your point, I prefer work from home because I get twice as much done without the daily interruptions of "Hello, how are you, wanna see pictures of my jetski, did you watch the game? (Me: game?, I don’t even know what game they mean)

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                While there are a few that work better in an office, the overwhelming majority work better at home. Why should we force everyone to suffer for the handful of folks who can’t self-motivate at home? We don’t bend over backwards to cater to people who say, have auditory issues that make working in a crowded open-plan office debilitating. We tell those folks to go die in a fire if they can’t handle an office environment. Plenty of people can’t work in an office, but that was never been seen as an argument to get rid of offices.

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          As well as being a sexual monster. A lot of tradition is built around reinforcement of sexist gender roles.

    • mister_flibble@sh.itjust.works
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      Honestly I think your first point is just a subset of something larger and even more basic - “we’ve always done it this way. Change is scawwy. Different bad. Are you implying I was wrong before?” Etc.