cross-posted from: https://slrpnk.net/post/34367979

More barriers to cycling means more cars which means more dead cyclists. Help us defeat this terrible anti-safety bill.

  • Korhaka@sopuli.xyz
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    5 days ago

    Should we come up with stealth ebikes and make regular bikes look a bit like ebikes, they can’t tell the difference.

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      Do you mean an ebike that is as slow as a pedal bike, and you have to move your feet round and round whilst it goes?

      It feels like there might be a way to do this and save some expensive parts, and a whole letter of the alphabet.

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        This is about registration for 20mph limited ebikes and 28mph limited pedal-assist bikes, with only 20mph pedal-assist staying free.

        I don’t actually get why ebike vs. pedelec should make a huge difference. But the speed limits to require registration don’t actually look unreasonable high. At least I don’t know many people casually biking at 28mph (or even 20mph…).

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            4 days ago

            Even with gears anyone can hit those speeds on a flat

            Sure, but we are talking about bikes and ebikes as a mode of transportation, not as a professional sport. Nobody is casually biking above 20 miles per hour on a flat, much less in actual urban and suburban traffic.

            If you want a moped or motorbike, although an electric one, that’s fine. Get a license, insurance and ride it at the matching speeds between the cars but not in bike lanes normally intentionally protected from that traffic.

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                3 days ago

                You can drive at speeds that are around (or in dense urban areas above) the general speed limit? That’s nice for you every time you are on a race track but totally irrelevant for biking as a general mode of personal mobility.

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                  How the hell is that irrelevant exactly? It’s not hard to get to that speed for anyone, you don’t need to be an athlete, therefore, treating ebikes like motorcycles or mopeds is, in short, fucking dumb.

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                    3 days ago

                    Ebikes are motorcycles, just not with combustion motors for once.

                    So why treat them like otherwise when they have weights and speeds matching those smaller motorcycles and mopeds? Oh, I know… to terrorize actual bikers on their infrastructure with your license-free much heavier and much faster vehicles.

                    Those ebike users (preferably with oversized impractical fat bikes they would never voluntarily move without that equally oversized motor) that cry if they can’t use bike lanes at car speeds and without any license are the modern version of those “the best bike infrastructure is no bike infrastructure because we should just drive between cars” idiots amd MAMILs… somehow fighting against biking in the name of biking.

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        5 days ago

        UK requires bikes to be pedal assist anyway, pedal at 1w and the motor does the effort. Yes I am training for the tour de France sprints, that is why I am going so fast.

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      They do have bike motors you can install on a standard bike. It’s not going to be as powerful as a moped or anything, and you risk having it stolen off your bike, but they exist.

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        Some can be pretty powerful. Not sure what you could get stealthily though. Backpack with the battery pack and run a cable down your leg to the motor?

        Now I wonder how much thrust efficiency you get from a high powered electric turbine fan…