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cross-posted from: https://slrpnk.net/post/34367979

More barriers to cycling means more cars which means more dead cyclists. Help us defeat this terrible anti-safety bill.

    • Ooops@feddit.orgEnglish
      2·
      7 days ago

      Even with gears anyone can hit those speeds on a flat

      Sure, but we are talking about bikes and ebikes as a mode of transportation, not as a professional sport. Nobody is casually biking above 20 miles per hour on a flat, much less in actual urban and suburban traffic.

      If you want a moped or motorbike, although an electric one, that’s fine. Get a license, insurance and ride it at the matching speeds between the cars but not in bike lanes normally intentionally protected from that traffic.

        • Ooops@feddit.orgEnglish
          1·
          6 days ago

          You can drive at speeds that are around (or in dense urban areas above) the general speed limit? That’s nice for you every time you are on a race track but totally irrelevant for biking as a general mode of personal mobility.

          • DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth
            4·
            6 days ago

            How the hell is that irrelevant exactly? It’s not hard to get to that speed for anyone, you don’t need to be an athlete, therefore, treating ebikes like motorcycles or mopeds is, in short, fucking dumb.

            • Ooops@feddit.orgEnglish
              1·
              6 days ago

              Ebikes are motorcycles, just not with combustion motors for once.

              So why treat them like otherwise when they have weights and speeds matching those smaller motorcycles and mopeds? Oh, I know… to terrorize actual bikers on their infrastructure with your license-free much heavier and much faster vehicles.

              Those ebike users (preferably with oversized impractical fat bikes they would never voluntarily move without that equally oversized motor) that cry if they can’t use bike lanes at car speeds and without any license are the modern version of those “the best bike infrastructure is no bike infrastructure because we should just drive between cars” idiots amd MAMILs… somehow fighting against biking in the name of biking.

                • Ooops@feddit.orgEnglish
                  1·
                  5 days ago

                  Sure, electric motorcycles driving at car speeds are totally not motorcycles and should drive between much slower and lighter bikes (and ebikes with sane speeds) on bike infrastructure, without a license of course. And if you want them to be regulated you are somehow just hating regular bikes, ebikes and pedelecs. 🤣

                  But OP is already argueing how every unfit regular biker casually drives above 28mph in urban areas (which Incidently is above the car speed limit where I live…), so sanity has left the room long ago…

                  • _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                    3·
                    5 days ago

                    I re-read to double check and no, they are not arguing that.

                    Also, 28 mph is a class 3 electric bicycle, not a motor vehicle, which is an entirely different class of transport. You can argue otherwise but you’ll be wrong aka full of shit.