President Donald Trump has said the U.S. will revisit its stance on Greenland in the coming weeks.

Asked if he expected to take action on the territory, Trump told reporters aboard Air Force One on Sunday: “Let’s talk about Venezuela, Russia, Ukraine. We’ll worry about Greenland in about two months. Let’s talk about Greenland in 20 days.”

He added: “We need Greenland from a national security situation. It’s so strategic.”

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      Greenland is a goner, I’m afraid.
      Even worse, with mounting aggression from East and West, and our own right-wing parties handing our enemies the continent on a silver platter, Greenland’s fall is going to usher in a century of humiliation for Europe.

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      Notice anything unusual?
      - Nah.

      Alt Text

      Two armed guards at entrance of medieval castle. EU flag at top of entrance. Two guests entering. Closeups of guards’ blank faces.
      Knight appears in the distance, Russian flag above head. Closeups of guards’ faces, staring blankly.
      Russian flag above knight’s head joined by Hungarian and Slovak flags. Closeups of guards’ faces, staring blankly.
      Flags joined by social media companies’ logos. Closeups of guards’ faces, staring blankly.
      Flags and logos joined by drones. Closeups of guards’ faces, staring blankly.
      Flags, logos, drones joined by USA flag. Knight slays 1st guard as 2nd guard looks on.
      Knight and 1st guard out of frame, EU flag torn in half. 2nd guard says: “Hey!”

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        Not militarily. The EU can’t project force the way the US can. And if they didn’t instantly issue crippling sanctions against Russia’s aggression, right in their fucking backyard, they won’t do shit to the US.

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          A fatal flaw they should have learned of from watching China’s buildup of their navy and asking themselves “why do they need that,” but they assumed the US Navy would always be protecting their interests and not threatening them.

          It’s like people don’t learn from history or something.

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        Obviously he’s saying 160 hours is what he works in 2 months, so that’s 80 hours a month, or 20 hours a week on average. Shit, I didn’t know being the president is a part time job, with those benefits? sign me up!

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      You are under the mistaken impression that Trump is in charge. His dementia is far worse than just a few years ago, even two years ago. This time around his handlers have figured out how to manipulate him.

      Taking Greenland isn’t Trump’s idea. If he wasn’t being fed ideas like this, he’d be plenty happy getting fatter, napping and continuing the grift from the Resolute desk.

      The US is going to take Greenland. As global warming rolls on, mineral extraction becomes easier and more profitable, and Arctic sea lanes will open year-round. If you were playing Risk, taking Greenland would be a no-brainer.

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      It is not a clickbait title. It is an attempt at explaining to normal people what the crazy boomer with nukes is rambling about.

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          That’s exactly the problem of having to report what a crazy but ridiculously powerful person is saying. If you don’t take him seriously and just report that he’s just rambling incoherently then you’re going to be surprised when he actually uses his immense power. If you present his ramblings as a coherent declaration then you’re going to be discredited when he doesn’t follow through.

          There is no easy answer here. I’m leaning towards the side that takes his sayings at face value because he’s too powerful not to.

          By the way, it’s way less productive to direct your anger towards the journalists trying to make sense of what the madman is saying.

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            Also considering he does occasionally follow through on some of his ramblings and it’s quite apparent that the government apparatus will happily follow his orders (even if they shouldn’t), the prudent thing to do is report on them as though he’s serious about it.

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          Everyone with the capability to do so already understands that he simply regurgitates whatever shit someone manipulated him to say before the interview. That is when he’s coherent enough to make himself understood which frequently isn’t the case anymore. His dementia is already fairly advanced and it is going to accelerate even harder in the future. He’s sleeping standing up during official meetings, for fuck’s sake.

          tl;dr: he’s not capable of making much sense anymore. The true power lurks behind him, we all know that.

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      deadline, definition number three from The American Heritage Dictionary: “A date on or before which something must be completed.”

      So I guess twenty days away is the deadline, or date, for talking about Greenland again?

      As annoying as headlines can be the tendency of people to intentionally misinterpret them is pretty annoying too.

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      yep. but people are freaking out like he’s going to invade in two days because of their irrational fear response and their doomerism fantasizing.

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        As global warming advances, taking Greenland is a no-brainer for the US. All this talk is softening the blow. I’d put a crisp $100 against the US not invading in the next 6-months.

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    It’s people like these that stop humanity from ever evolving past meaningless wars and eternal petty garbage. Trump, Putin, Xi and others are the reason why humanity can’t have good things.

    Trump has forever tarnished the USA as a beacon of freedom and democracy. I’m hopeful the american people will see this eventually, but history contradicts that hope.

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      This

      We need to stop allowing psychopaths and narcissists from getting any power whatsoever

      We have a list of requirements if you want to become a fireman. If you want to become a lawyer, it’s a protected job that not anyone can do, you must pass the bar and whatnot to be able to call yourself one

      Want to become a politician and make the rules? Suddenly there are no rules nor requirements, any idiot is welcome. WTF?

      If you were born with, say, a deformed hand, we don’t let you become a fireman because you need your arms

      If you’re born without the ability to feel empathy for others, or literally can only care about yourself, or are incapable or stopping with lying, then apparently you’re perfect for the type of job where you make rules for others and have to decide what happens to others. WTF?

      Stop psychopaths and narcissists from becoming politicians, have a law against it

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      Isnt xi, though a dictator, the smartest one among them, who is also trying to push technological advancements and at least trying to solve eco issues? Best of trio

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        I’m not sure if he’s smarter than Putin, but I guess if I had to hang out with one of them, it would be Xi.

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            Putin isn’t dumb? He underestimated how Europe and Ukraine would handle his invasion, but domestically he’s proven plenty adept at doing the job of kleptocrat.

            Xi was also a nepobaby, for what it’s worth. Putin’s life trajectory involved more good luck at the very least, if not actual competence.

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              Did he? I’m not by any stretch a Putin supporter, yet I fail to see how he’s not 1) strengthening his support at home, and 2) winning the war of attrition in Ukraine

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                He’s pretty quickly running out of economy to fund the war. It’s very very expensive to pay people who don’t care about your war to die for it, and revenues have not gone up. Their industrial production is a joke and they’ve actually burned through the Soviet doomsday stockpiles. The original goal was to take Kiev immediately, watch as Europe does nothing a but write a strongly worded letter, and then move on to the Baltics. If there’s no deal keep an eye on the value of the ruble.

                Meanwhile, Ukraine still hasn’t expanded conscription to under-25s, and still has access to bottomless Western supplies.

                I’m also not sure how Putin’s domestic support is stronger than before. Fighting Ukraine is seen domestically in Russia a lot like fighting Canada would be in the US - nobody really wants to do that. Increasing both handouts and enforcement against dissidents has been a real priority for him, as a result.

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                  Is that true? Im not arguing that the Russian economy is booming, but diversifying to export crude to China India and Turkey is helping the wartime economy trundle along in the war of attrition.

                  The Muscovite elites probably don’t care about the war as long as it’s not impacting them too much, these are not the people sent to the front lines.

                  Idk, I’ve heard for 4 years now that the Russian economy is about to collapse any second now, and the opposite seems to have happened. I fear this is a miscalculation from the Western allies

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                Yeah, that was a conversation with Xi.

                China’s a stronger country, no doubt. Mostly because of people who came before Xi.

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                  In which he disappointedly replied max life expectancy is 150 years with current medical advancements

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              Nepobaby word really became popular recently, isnt it? Xi has better education, better in science, politics, shows better results economically ecologically. Better country in r and d. People in China live better than in Russia. Putin is just a thug who is lucky to be in right place right time.

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      It’s also plenty of people that support them. Some folks just like to watch the world burn.

      What saddens me is that somehow the idea of uniting and flourishing together is not universally accepted as good. Some people always want more for themselves, and it’s often easy to manipulate them into identifying themselves and the nation, the nation and its leaders. To them, Trump or Putin or Xi getting another ambition played feels like personal victory. In fact, it’s rather everybody’s loss.

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      The problem this time is, there’s no “good guy” relatively speaking, to jump in and stop them this time. World War III has begun, and the fascists will win easily. Then they turn on each other.

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      Trump, Putin, Xi and others are the reason why humanity can’t have good things.

      Also, the “good” people who believe that remaining polite and non-confrontational is the best way to appease bullies, because it has ALWAYS worked so well on the past. They are the ones who determine that sometimes maniacs become so psychopathic, that we are better off letting them do whatever they want, because ultimately it might be slightly less lethal to millions of people.

      Or you could keep those people away from the leadership of your nation in the first place, but that wouldn’t be polite. Everybody deserves a turn at the steering wheel, even if they are suicidal.

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      It is his typical “If I set a deadline sometime in the near future, then they will probably stop talking about it because they will have forgotten about it, just like I will have forgotten about it”. He did it with his healthcare plan, his plan for eradicating ISIS and so forth.

      I wish journalists would stop asking him about Greenland, because it only serves to remind him about it, and make him aware it is something which makes people talk about him, which really turns him on as a pathological narcissist. If they stopped asking him about it, he would stop talking about it and forget it in those 20 days to 2 months.

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        I wish journalists would stop asking him about Greenland, because it only serves to remind him about it

        Half right. The above blurb clearly states that he started talking about it:

        President Donald Trump has said the U.S. will revisit its stance on Greenland in the coming weeks.

        Asked if he expected to take action on the territory

        Yet the journalist couldn’t resist egging him on, and yeah, I resent that. He must be such an easy target for journalists: prod him, you always get a controversial quote. And that’s a big part of what got him into & keeps him in power.

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    “let’s talk about Russia, Ukraine, Venezuela, Colombia, Mexico, Canada. Also, where’s my fucking Nobel Peace Prize!? I’m the president of peace! I think we’re going to have to do something about Mr.Nobel as well.”

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    Denmark and the US are both in NATO, and NATO already has Greenland.

    This is like Donald threatening Melania to steal her make up.

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    A related question I have: Was the US ever (publicly) interested in “acquiring” Greenland before Trump? His comments are the first of the sort I ever noticed, but I could imagine the idea having a longer tradition.

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      They were literally offered Greenland by the Danish ambassodor during WWII, and could have kept it after the war, but chose to hand it back. So no, the purposes of the US with Greenland has been served perfectly fine with the previous diplomatic arrangements they have had.

      There is no sense to this other than Trump sees how big and beautiful it looks on a map in the same colour as the US territory.

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      Trump has flouted the idea in 2019 already, and there is some history. But just to be clear, the mere fact that the USA have expressed interest in Greenland one way or another over the centuries does of course not legitimize that interest! And afaics there’s nothing more to it. Just “interest” a.k.a. greed, expansionism, imperialism.

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        Thanks, very interesting. I think I had read about the US occupying Greenland during WWII (defensively), but not about the buy offers.

        And yes, obviously nothing legitimises these threats. I was just interested to see whether Trump came up with it or whether it has some history in US political circles, which it appears it does.

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      I remember George W Bush talking about buying Greenland from us back in the 2000s. We thought he was a crazy bastard but I actually miss Bush. He was the fun kind of incompetent.

      Before that there was a very embarrassing moment in time during the 50s where the US illegally used Greenland for nuclear experiments and left the nuclear waste on Greenland and pissed on us when our government tried to get them to take responsibility for the clean up. I see that as an invasion too, but it was kept hush hush for years. It’s still a problem now that the ice is melting.

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    We’ll worry about Greenland in about two months. Let’s talk about Greenland in 20 days.

    60 days = 20 days. Got it.

    We need Greenland from a national security situation. It’s so strategic.

    Much strategic. So situation.

    I’ve thinking a lot this past year about John Oliver’s segment on how this loon is undeniably, comically stupid, but that he’s equally dangerous, and the former often seriously undercuts the latter. He sounds like he’s having a stroke most of the time, sure, but I keep wondering how long it will take for leaders to figure out that they need to take his gibberish seriously. Maybe the latest abduction of a world leader will clue them in.

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    Whenever Trump talks about timelines like this, nothing happens. He just spurts them out, he just expects the news cycle to move forward and forget about what he said.