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- politics@lemmy.world
Biden’s office announced his illness Sunday afternoon.
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I wish him ease of his suffering in direct proportion to how much he eased innocent Palestinians suffering. Seems only fair.
What I find so annoying is how there are so many people (outside of this platform) who are just shocked and devastated about this news. I am over here like…the man is in his eighties. He is an elderly man. We should not be that surprised about some illness popping up at that age.
Why can’t the current president get aggressive cancer? Everyone would love that (although I would pity the cancer).
This is why after 60, I’m not going to try to be president. I’m retiring. Guy spent the last few good years he had stressed out running the country when he should’ve been playing bingo and sitting on a beach.
Since this is an opportunity to educate people about health, I will not discuss politics here. :)
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If you’re a guy, your urinary tract is stupidly complicated from a medical viewpoint and there’s a prostate beneath the bladder which hydrogenates testosterone (T is produced by the brain) into dihydrotestosterone, produces fluid to mix the seminal fluid with, and generally supports fertility and gender specific phenotype.
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With progressing age, the prostate enlarges, gets infected with HPV (nearly everyone gets it) and may get bacterial infections (typical ones are E. coli). It may also develop calcinations.
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Risk is reduced if you live in Asia and eat a traditional menu containing much soy bean products which enables guys in those regions to enjoy several times less prostate cancer.
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Risk is increased with nearly every urinary tract infection, especially if not conclusively diagnosed and treated.
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After the age of 40, regularly have PSA (prostate specific antigen) measured from a blood test. It tells how much disintegration and immune reaction is occurring down there.
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Regularly have ultrasound check-ups done. If there are UTI symptoms, treatment must not occur blindly, but must be followed by observation.
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If you are young and your home country has medical insurance that covers HPV vaccination, get it while it’s free (because it costs 150 € a dose). If you’re rich enough, there may be a point in getting it later too, especially if you’ve not had unsafe sex (it doesn’t protect after infection). The majority of people get HPV during their lives and approximately 9 strains cause cervical cancer in women and raise the risk of prostate cancer in men. By getting vaccinated against HPV, you protect both yourself and your partners from drawing a ticket in a quite nasty lottery.
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As long as prostate cancer is androgen dependent, it can be suppressed with an androgen blockade.
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Wishing him all the best. I have seen quite a few men die to that disease (no one dies of prostate cancer but it spreads really fast and to really bad places).
Good luck Biden.
It should have happened to Trump. Not that Biden is a good guy, but it would be nice if Trump died of an ass related illness.
I’m not convinced Trump is healthy. I bet he has a plethora of health issues but the paid-off doctors aren’t releasing the information.
Anything is possible. Prostate cancer is far more common than most people realize…there is an easy to remember true statistic – 80% of all men over 80 have prostate cancer. That’s 4 out of 5. It very often tends to be so slow growing that it’s simply not an issue, really, you’ll have more pressing health concerns that will kill you first.
It’s good to check, then once it is identified, either dealt with or monitored with regular frequency.
It has already metastasized in his bones, so it’s much more aggressive than most prostate cancers. After metastasizing there, three 5-year survival rate is about 33% with a median survival time of 21 months. But it’s also very rare for it to have already spread elsewhere before being caught, so I’m assuming that means that this is even more aggressive than normal and that 21 months would be optimistic. But I’m not a medical professional, so I can’t say how valid this assumption is.
Do you think Trump will just be cheezing. Do you think that the cheeseburger king could keep his mouth shut about it? Or will he just be so tacky? We are such a trashy country. It’s so funny and scary.
Trump has already issued a generic sympathy statement, “Melania and I are saddened to hear about Joe Biden’s recent medical diagnosis. We extend our warmest and best wishes to Jill and the family, and we wish Joe a fast and successful recovery.”
yes, but for most of those men it’s a cancer they die with, rather than one they die from.
its slow growing from what ive heard, but biden had a aggressive type, which would be different, since aggressive types usually have different mutations and genetics compared to the “slow growing ones”. even with something like melanoma, there are more than one type: nodular, subungul,etc. some cancers can be indentified by the type of gene mutations they have thats specific to that cancer
Understood. Yeah my post was more of a PSA, baking general knowledge into people’s brains. Everybody freaks out when they hear the word “cancer”, and they should know…prostate cancer in old men is different. But this one is aggressive & mutating & it’s metastasized into the bones, etc.
I know it’s possible, but I also get the impression he’s going to outlive all of us somehow.
It’s that pesky top-of-the-line health care he has access to.
What if I stick my finger up my ass? Can I check it myself? Cause I just can’t afford the doctor bill. I heard about the guy that took out his own appendix. I feel like this is a little bit less invasive and a little kinky. What do you think?
Both of them are going to be on the elevator down when their time comes.
Their only chance is in making something nearly impossible happen so that their destination is frozen over when they get there.
ass related illness
Now there’s a phrasing…
Putting my hopes on infected hemorrhoids
He probably got a dirty ass.
“Yoav Galant is a pretty good guy.”
With all the ass kissing his cabinet does, he’s sure to get something. Probably why he stays away from MTG these days.
fuck, i prayed for this but it hit the wrong president
Watch your aim dude!
Ugh, first that kid only getting his ear and now THIS?
do better
When they sending time travellers, they aren’t sending their best. 🤦♂️
This is why some religions point themselves before the praying starts.
Tbf, Trump’s health is shrouded in so much subterfuge that you could have gotten the right president but we just don’t know it.
I mean, given the fact that this affected Joe Biden up until this announcement, and no medical examiner announced it previously, it does seem plausible.
biden is a scumbag, always has been pimp for lobbyist and aipac cancer. you murder kids for money this is what he should get and hopefully worse in afterlife.
Fuck these down voters.
Naaa there are just two buttons and both of them can be pressed.
I would bungee jump on them.
No harm done
Countdown to Trump saying something deplorable. 10…9…8…
Damn, didn’t even get to finish the countdown.
Somehow I don’t think you are joking. 😢
I stomached looking at his truth social account so you don’t have to:
Melania and I are saddened to hear about Joe Biden’s recent medical diagnosis. We extend our warmest and best wishes to Jill and the family, and we wish Joe a fast and successful recovery.
I guess some pr person has his phone today. He’ll probably say something stupid in an interview later.
I checked the Conservative subreddit to see what their reaction was and it’s pretty sympathetic. This made me laugh though
As if this isn’t the most basic norm of the presidency?
Has any other president trashed an ex presidents diagnosis (or something similar)?
This almost made me puke:
Cancer doesn’t care about ideology, but it sure seems like one ideology in the US cares about giving you cancer and denying treatment for it.
If cancer could vote, it would vote Republican.
Yes. That’s a big reason why a democrat posting in r/conservative calling them classy and wonderful almost made me puke.
You are an angel! Yes it’s written by an educated and classy person. Not him.
Yeah. Turns out he posted on twitter last night, less than three hours from the OP’s countdown:
What I want to know is how did Dr. Jill Biden miss stage five metastatic cancer or is this yet another coverup???
I should note that there is no such thing as stage five cancer, only 1-4. And Jill Biden’s doctorate is in education.
I thought that was his son? Or did he retweet it?
Those were his words while retweeting something else.
Kinder response than half of Lemmy, even if he didn’t write it.
Yeah the comments ITT are pretty awful. I’m no fan of Biden, but some of the comments here are depraved.
Aiding and abetting a genocide is depraved.
Going on national TV and lying about seeing “pictures of 40 beheaded babies” is depraved.
Celebrating when a war criminal gets prostate cancer? Not depraved at all in my opinion. He deserves much worse.
Aiding and abetting a genocide is depraved.
Agreed.
Going on national TV and lying about seeing “pictures of 40 beheaded babies” is depraved.
Agreed.
He deserves much worse.
Agreed.
Celebrating when a war criminal gets prostate cancer? Not depraved at all in my opinion.
Hard disagree.
You can acknowledge that he’s an awful person while refraining from celebrating his misfortune.
If someone deserves punishment, celebrating that punishment is basically just hatred. I might want to get that looked at.
Yeah, there is absolutely no way he wrote that!
lol yup no way t wrote that himself.
What are these comments? You people are vile.
Thank goodness he lives in a country where the cancer hospitals haven’t been bombed out of existence with weapons funded by the United States under the leadership of Joe Biden.
I wish Joe well. Terrible thing to have to deal with.
I always love the cognitive dissonance people have seeing others hope that a man directly responsible for a metric ton of civilian deaths, succumbing to a painful death, is not ethically correct.
I mean people seem to have zero issue with United Healthcare. Exorbitant Healthcare costs is the equivalent of death, but literally bombing hospitals and refugee camps isn’t?
Not to mention that he’ll be receiving the latest and greatest in medical aid anyway, so there’s a fair chance he’ll survive. A lot of geriatric asshat world leaders contracted covid and still lived.
I can’t even tell if this is DNC shilling because several people have implied they would treat Trump the same. Wth kind of moral compass are yall following lol?
This comment section shows that even on decentralized, less mainstream platforms there’s a lot of people behaving similarly to what would be called bots on Reddit. Come on, guys, we can do better than this.
We can acknowledge Joe Biden’s crimes and failures without cheering his sickness and wishing him a painful death. Same with Donald Trump and all the other scummy politicians.
We can also disagree about various policies, issues or parties while treating each other with respect and an open mind, instead of degrading all discussion to ‘communism vs capitalism’ or ‘democracy vs fascism’ arguments.
I know it can be difficult to remain civil towards government officials who are essentially criminals, and anyone who supports or seems to support them in any capacity. However, I personally think we should try.
metastasis to the bone
Yeah, he’s not making it.
The guy’s also 82, so it’s not like he has a long road ahead of him regardless of this.
I’ve seen what chemo does to young, healthy people. Joe ain’t that.
While this represents a more aggressive form of the disease, the cancer appears to be hormone-sensitive which allows for effective management.
Feels like more of the same strategy of downplaying Biden’s symptoms. I bet when he dies they’ll deny it for a few days.
I don’t disagree that there is a strategy of downplaying not just Biden’s, but every politician’s health conditions.
I used to have this absolutely incredible writing professor, who, at 85, told us on the first day of class that he was dying, and had been for 4 years. He even had a blog about his reflections on mortality that he invited us to read. He had prostate cancer. I don’t remember the details, but they couldn’t operate to remove it or do chemo, but it was the kind that is hormone sensitive. They gave him a drug that destroyed his body’s ability to produce testosterone, so the cancer just stopped growing. He died at 90 - 9 years after his diagnosis. 10% extra life for him.
No two people and prognosis’ are alike but the possibility exists they might be telling the truth about managing it.
Some people just defy the odds sometimes, my grandpa was supposed to die 5 or 6 times before he finally did. Multiple times the doctors told us they could no longer do anything for him, only for him to recover and get into the same situation with another issue some years later.
He lived on borrowed time ever since my mom was born yet lived to see his first grand-grandchild born some 30+ years later.
Toward what end? I don’t think you’re thinking this through.
Evil conspiracy because of evil conspiracy, obviously.
Because his underlings have been downplaying his health issues for the last several years and that’s what they’re used to doing.
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the form is still hormone sensitive so its treatable, to an extent, obvious with metasis is lower, but prostate usually have good prognosis, but that depends other factors.
much like breast cancers that are hormone sensitive, they are treatable, the ones that triple negative or the rare IBC those are very aggressive and they are not affected by anti-hormone therapy.
I heard recently it’s incredibly common for men to get diagnosed with prostate cancer and then just die normally from something else. Likely the same happens with him
