The most burned-out generation yet.
yeah. the energy and determination of youth has kept GenZ from burning out yet, but they went through covid during what should have been the peak years of their life.
on the other hand, us Millennials are cursed with remembering how things used to be better. sometimes I wish I didn’t.
Well Gen Z only hears and sees the beautified pink tinted version of history on how life used to be - not sure that’s any better
Of course they’re not as burned out as us; they’re younger and haven’t been beaten down for as long. I’m sure they’ll get there in time, but we need to stop this intergenerational infighting and focus on what’s really important: putting everyone over 50 in camps and redistributing their wealth.
And even if they never have it like us, then good. I want younger generations to have it better. I know what its like to be handed a shit deal
I want my son to grow up in a world with so much oversight and regulation that he takes government protections for granted and dismantles them for tax breaks. Is that so much to ask?
A bit extreme
Found one for the camps!
Let’s start with Florida and see how it goes
That’s where I was gonna build the camps.
These terms like “Gen X” or “Millennials” are just as meaningful as astrological signs. In other words: They aren’t.
These supposed generational differences are utter nonsense. There’s no scientific research behind them. There are always people with different experiences and biographical backgrounds, but no entire generation experiences the same background.
But there are some similarities throughout a cadre. For example one generation lived through the Great Depression, another through WW2, and yet another through the black plague. It doesn’t mean that whole cadres experiences are exactly the same and ubiquitous across the globe, but it does mean it shares some environmental characteristics that are useful for categorization.
While it may not be very useful in many contexts, it absolutely isn’t the same as astrology.
The question is: how much impact do such shared experiences have? This is usually overinterpreted. Even with all people who experienced the Second World War, one cannot say that they all automatically share the same character traits. There are millions of other individual factors that also have a biographical and epigenetic impact and thus great diversity will always arise.
This whole Gen vs Gen bullcrap is a bourgeois distraction attempt. Don’t buy into any of it. There is no Gen vs Gen, it’s bourgeois vs proletariat.
Nope we’re not doing this again. It’s not like that. Were all equally fucked on average. Let’s not be crabs in a bucket.
But… but… I’m a lobster and she’s a crayfish!
That right!
And you call this gestures vaguely around a bucket‽ More like some kind of high walled vessel.
It’s a safety basement. We’re in it because of safety!
My own personal idea to reduce burnout: democracy.
People never shut up about how we supposedly live in a free democratic society and spend 40+ hours in a fucking facist dictatorship.
Also if you don’t like your boss it should be legally permissible, even encouraged, to be able to hit them in the face once with a tire iron.
Don’t let the Mainstream Media incite any war but a Class War.
Gen Z may think they have it rough but millennials are the most burned-out generation
What, you think they’d report on anything useful to keep their role as the Fourth Estate? Naaah. CLICKBAIIIIIT!!
Everyone is calling out (rightfully so) the divisive bait but I think there is some interesting reason worth discussing behind this:
Some Gen Z folks used the wisdom of millennials and just said fuck it and checked out, their lives might not be great but it’s probably stress free.
Whereas for millennials, in theory having the American dream was possible, just less likely as time progressed. They are stuck with an almost sunken cost fallacy in which they have tried so hard cause they believed with enough effort they would make it. Now that they are burned out, they are faced with the dilemma of either stop trying and waste the high efforts or keep going and maybe they will get lucky.
So in conclusion, millennials having it better can backfire in some sense.
The only reason this can be even slightly true is strictly because of age. We are ALL burnt out. They will be where millennial are in just a few years. We gotta stop this gen VS gen nonsense.
Didn’t know being mentally unwell is a competition, but bring it on
Call forth the therapists and let them do battle for our honor
Millennials are more burned out because of having more time to have gotten burned out.
Compare people of same age. Get back to me about gen Z in 10 or 15 years and compare them to Millennails now.
Exactly. I’m a millennial and this is absolute bullshit. Gen Z has it way worse than we did at that age, and we already had it rough.
These generational differences simply do not exist. Societies don’t work that way that everybody in a cohort has the same experiences and biographies.
Millennial here. Fuck this shit - our enemy is the ultra rich and shitstains that abuse power. Pitching generations against eachother is counterproductive.
Breaking through these made up barriers is the best thing we can do in the US right now to fight those jackasses and their tyranny.
Ok, but let’s not be divisive among generations over a common enemy.
No war but class war.
Exactly. As a millenial, my goal is to be compassionate for the next generation — not to pull the “when I was your age” card on Gen Z and Alpha.
I hold nothing but compassion and solidarity for those who follow.
I want things to be easier for them, not as hard or harder than they were for us.
Story:
Just had a really painful conversation with my Boomer in-laws. They refuse to see acknowledge how bad things are for us and blame us for our failure to thrive like they got to, after receiving a six-figure cash injection back in the 80s from their parents, which is all gone now with their frivolous spending.
In the US, 1950-1980 is the era of lowest wealth inequality in the countries history. The top tax rate reached 91% in that time period. It is currently around 37%. Us poors had it worse before then, and have it worse after then. They won a birth lottery. Source: Thomas Piketty’s ‘Capital in the 21st Century’
Cutting the top tax rate in 1983 actually increased tax revenue. A 91% rate is too high and encourages tax avoidance and evasion
And now that it’s lower the billionaires are happy to pay their fair share and society is better off for it. /s
They have reduced it since then never recreating the same results which is likelya larger factor
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Do you have a source for that? I found this source that is citing data from the congressional budget office. SOURCE (I followed the link and did confirm the numbers match). I made a quick plot so it was easier to see trends. Nothing stands out to me about 1983 - there’s a small dip and then a course correction back towards the upwards trajectory, but this data tells us nothin about wealth inequality. We can’t use total values because of inflation and such , probably have to use revenue as a %GDP or something but I’m too lazy too keep searching at the moment :) My immediate thought looking at the plot is this: If the total tax rev kept going up, and the top tax rate was cut, then the increased tax burden must have shifted to the poorer classes; I’d have to verify but it seems like a logical conclusion.
Yeah, your graph is a good source. Tax revenue growth steadily increases starting at 1983
Yup! I’m a millenial here and I’m not here to compete for the oppression Olympics.
The rich just gave themselves another tax break. I’m not here to fight my fellow people. I want to eat the rich!
PEW abandoned generational studies because they aren’t useful. You have more in common with people your age +/- 5 years than you have with your generation
It’s because discrete generations aren’t a real thing.
You summed it up best: same age give or take a few years. I’m an elder millennial and have more in common with the youngest gen X than with the youngest millennials.
I mean if gen Z men are a big fascist majority, when does it start being a class war?
Doesn’t matter, no war but class war.
The primary adjective/insult to focus on is them being a fascist; the moment you pull any other, non-related adjective into the insult, they give themselves permission to ignore you.
Fuck fascist assholes, fuck the upper class, no matter the demographic.
Don’t worry, GenZ will eventually get even more burnt out than us. They’re just not there yet. We all have it rough.
I’m not even sure if this is relevant. What is relevant though: we are all burned out and instead of asking who’s the most burned out we should probably fight the cause, because that’s the same for all generations: capitalism
hear hear, it’s not team sports, it’s everyone’s fucking life, we all share this place and this time
Instead of comparing our burn outs we should be burning the people holding us captive.
Why do you think genz will get more burnt out than us?
Because everything that has made life worse for millennials, is not fixed, not even a little bit, and is not going to be fixed. It is going to keep getting worse and it is not clear people are even really trying to fix anything anymore because we are, as the article points out, burned out. There is almost nothing on the horizon that has much potential for making anything any better or easier for anybody, and the few things that do have that potential, like AI and automation, are very clearly (to me) going to be misused for exploiting humans in almost every possible way and making life harder not easier for the vast majority of the human population which likely includes everybody commenting here.
GenZ may instead get burned-out literally – from their homes, as humanity continues to work mindlessly towards a goal of creating enough heat to set the entire planet on fire, but maybe the rising oceans will put some of the fires out. Families and mental health and the fabric of society will continue to fray. Prices will keep rising. The wealth gap will continue expanding. Lawlessness and homelessness will become rampant. Democracy will continue to slide towards corporate tyranny and fascism, and peace begins to make way for conflict and war.
Time plus exponential decline.
The frequency with which once-in-a-generation calamities are occurring.
Fuck, man. I’m at 3.5 and I ain’t even 40 yet.
As a college grad from the dot-com school, I feel ya.
Everyone is fuck this gen war bait and fuck fake journalist
Instead of the class war, fuck billionaires
