Oh I think I know how this will end.

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    at least they haven’t resticted sales to registered republicans…

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    Great. The sooner and quicker Americans shoot each other the better for the rest of the world.

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    In other countries they sell modified versions of these handguns that cannot be made into machine guns with a switch. This is the real solution, but for some reason gun manufacturers can do no wrong in the US and are not held to higher safety standards.

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      Sure. But this isn’t a bump stock. It’s a forced reset trigger that was just unbanned… Which is insane. It essentially converts semi automatic weapons to automatic weapons.

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    Full auto weapons should be legal. Only idiots think full auto weapons are more dangerous. If someone is going to try using full auto during a crime all that will happen is the weapon will pull to the side and expend all it’s ammo in a few seconds. There is a reason why the military changed to semi auto/burst rifles as the standard.

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        The mag will be empty and there is no way possible that they hit anything that was being shot at. People that think fully auto weapons are easy to fire have never even seen one fired in real life. After 2-3 rounds it is already pulling to the side. They are not just inaccurate, they are impossible to shoot accurately.

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    Maybe if the ATF wasn’t so terrible and sloppy and did things that made sense and did things legally we could have some sensible gun laws.

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      You’re catching strays but your 100% right. The ATF is extremely ineffective, and are an actual road block in getting meaningful shit done! They like being unsupervised and shooting people’s dogs, like any other cop.

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          Kinda what I meant. I’m a big gun lover, but also believe we need better rules. I actually walked into an Atwoods in Arkansas a few weeks ago, and an elderly farmer type was asking the gun counter what he needed to do to sell his gun to a friend. The clerk correctly told him “nothing” and the old farmer type guy responded “That don’t seem right.” So there are many more of us, even if some aren’t terminally online.

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    Nice I’ve been wanting a FRT. machine guns aren’t very good for mass shootings. All your ammo is gone instantly and you’re way less accurate. It’s good for suppressing fire, and fun in the backyard. This is not going to lead to more gun deaths.

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        I’d like to know too in Washington state, I’m considering have an out of state relative buy one for me in the mean time

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      I like how you are acting like most of us haven’t played an FPS. The biggest difference is that there is no balance nerf between the damage an automatic bullet does and a semiautomatic bullet does. It’s certainly leading to more gun deaths in Mexico, where a lot of these weapons are getting exported down to, although it is refreshing to act like school shootings still aren’t a thing.

      I fully expect for police to have to fear being “suppressive fired” soon enough, there are enough militant groups within the US that will enjoy the news, specially given the number of their members that were pardoned for Jan 6th.

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      Let us not forget… an FRT doesn’t even constitute a “machine gun” by their own definition!

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    “We were going to win this,” said the former senior ATF official. “These things are not like bump stocks."

    Forced reset devices are actually exactly like bump stocks in that they’re legal because they force a distinct action of the trigger for every round fired. The legal definition of a machine gun is a firearm that fires more than one round per single action of the trigger. They haven’t bothered to amend or expand that definition, so these types of devices keep skirting by on a technicality.

    I suppose the argument could be made that forced reset devices work in a very similar way to a machine gun’s auto sear, the difference being that they act on the trigger of the gun rather than the hammer, but it still doesn’t meet the government’s own definition of a machine gun.

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    The history on this is interesting

    Trump banned bump stocks as a reaction to the Vegas massacre.

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-administration-issues-rule-banning-bump-stocks-year/story?id=59884493

    Then the supreme court ruled that unconstitutional.

    https://www.npr.org/2024/06/14/g-s1-2929/supreme-court-bump-stocks

    Now the trump admin is going to permit more things like the bump stock to be sold legally. Specifically, something that makes a semi automatic gun fire much more rapidly.

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        This really wouldn’t make a difference. It isn’t hard to bend a coat hanger or drill a third hole.

        Also, FRTs and bump stocks are really just range toys.