Oh I think I know how this will end.

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    In other countries they sell modified versions of these handguns that cannot be made into machine guns with a switch. This is the real solution, but for some reason gun manufacturers can do no wrong in the US and are not held to higher safety standards.

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      In Belgium, of all places, you can buy fully auto weapons from shops with just a collectors license.

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      Do you have evidence to support that? Because AFAIK, the Glocks made both in the US and Austria have exactly the same design. OTOH, in most of Europe, it’s very difficult to get the appropriate license for a handgun, so it’s largely irrelevant.

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        Glocks sold in Europe are designed not to work with switches. This is common knowledge.

        https://www.abc4.com/news/national/ap-new-jersey-minnesota-sue-glock-over-switch-that-allows-pistols-to-fire-like-machine-gun/

        “Glock is profiting by continuing to sell the adaptable version in U.S. markets, even as they make and sell handguns in Europe that cannot accommodate such a switch.”

        Do you have evidence to support your claims or should I just block you now?

        Edit: A quick look through you comments shows you are definitely a gun nut. Hard pass on discussing anything with your denialist guns r gud mentality.

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          Hard pass on discussing anything with your denialist guns r gud mentality

          Yeah, isn’t is strange that someone doesn’t want the state to have the monopoly on violence, and believes in civil rights? Weird, right?

          From your article:

          “Platkin said Glock is profiting by continuing to sell the adaptable version in U.S. markets, even as they make and sell handguns in Europe that cannot accommodate such a switch.”

           This is something I've having a really hard time finding a source on. Everything I can find says that that about half of the Glock pistols that are sold in the US are made in Austria. And, as I said, sales in Europe for pistols are very tightly controlled, meaning that very few pistols--relatively speaking--are getting into the hands of anyone other than cops and military, so I'm not sure that there's a strong motive for them to make the design alteration in the EU.
           Aside from the assertion from New Jersey's AG, I just can't find a source for that. I'm not saying that it doesn't exist, and, if the AG is correct, then yes, Glock should change their design in the US. There's already precedent for this; open bolt semi-automatic firearms manufactured after 1986 are banned because they can--in general--be readily converted to full auto. However, given how many Glocks currently exist in the US, that would be an enormous legal mess that could possibly result in the National Firearms Act being declared unconstitutional.
          

          “Also known as “auto switches,” the devices, which are already illegal in New Jersey and some other states, […]”

          They’re illegal in EVERY state; it covered under federal law, specifically the National Firearms Act (1934) and Firearm Owners Protection Act (1986). Even if it was legal in New Jersey, it would still be a felony to possess or use one.