In a 58-second video posted on the social media site X, Kennedy said he removed COVID-19 shots from Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s recommendations for those groups. No one from the CDC was in the video, and CDC officials referred questions about the announcement to Kennedy and the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services.

U.S. health officials, following recommendations by infectious disease experts, have been urging annual COVID-19 boosters for all Americans ages 6 months and older.

A CDC advisory panel is set to meets in June to make recommendations about the fall shots. Among its options are suggesting shots for high-risk groups but still giving lower-risk people the choice to get vaccinated.

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      healthy people spend less money on healthcare, therefore less profits for your owners, therefore lets make everyone sick

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        Conversely, healthy people have (mandated) health insurance at minimal cost to the insurance companies.

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      Or someone who just like making people sick. After Madagascar and other mass fatalities he was involved with, it might just be that he is an old fashioned psychopathic killer whose weapon is germs?

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    Screw that guidance. I’ll be getting the new COVID shot as soon as its available (in whatever country I have to travel to to get it).

    What this really means is that if you want a COVID shot, you’ll have to pay out-of-pocket because insurance will now say its not necessary for health.

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      It looks like the list of at-risk groups eligible for the vaccine will be pretty extensive so you might be able to get it in the US with a bit of creativity.

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        Just be wary of how you do that.

        There are a lot of rules in the ACA (which… is totally gonna be a thing once the trump administration remembers it) against it, but if you get it put down that you are in an at risk group that can have some long term monetary implications.

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      I’m at the point where I’m wondering if Americans will be able to get the shot at all

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      Insurance companies will likely take their cues from him.

      Which means you’d be able to get your vaccine…but if it’s not “necessary”, you’ll have to pay cash.

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        Excellent point I hadn’t thought about.

        Wouldn’t it be in their best interest to cover it though, because Covid would be much more expensive? (Like how the flu shot is covered)

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            They would cover a portion of any doctor’s visits and prescriptions, similar to the flu I’m guessing. Same reason they cover flu shots and a portion of the costs related to diagnosing and recovering from the flu.

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              Plus they don’t cover “sick visits” at all until you meet your deductible anyway.

              Let’s be honest…how many “healthy” (relatively speaking) Americans in these groups actually meet their deductible each year?

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    I can’t comprehend how they can still be salty about the pandemic vaccines.

    Sure, lots of things went wrong in the pandemic, but those who got the jab went on with their lives, no health issues.

    A lot of people made an ass of themselves and now have to pretend for the rest of their lives that vaccines don’t work.

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      A lot of people made an ass of themselves and now have to pretend for the rest of their lives that vaccines don’t work.

      So many of our problems literally boil down to people refusing to ever admit they were wrong about anything

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        They’ve built not only their political career on lies and misinformation, but also their personal lives. If they did admit they were wrong, they’d not only lose their jobs but it would force them to questions every aspect of themselves, and they’re far too afraid of what they’re going to find to ever do that.

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          It’s very sad, especially when it’s family. How do you ever learn anything unless you can admit you’re wrong (or simply don’t know) about something?

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      They hated so many things about the pandemic. I don’t think the Venn diagram of the various idiotic pet peeves and conspiracy theories is exactly one circle, but there seems to be a lot of resentment for many things coming from the same basic set of people, clustered in the Republican Party. They hated so many things.

      1. The people that took measures to protect themselves and others, meaning social distancing and masks. The qons hated this and they hated it so much. They hated this stark reminder that donvict couldn’t just wish Covid away and make the stock market behave as he wished. They would often claim they saw everyone in cars by themselves with masks on, as if that was the only such use, lol. But boy they were mad about it!
      1. The government stepping to help people in need with stimulus checks. This seemed to enrage a lot of them, even if they cashed that check themselves.

      2. The notion that there was a safe and effective vaccine seems to have really driven them up the wall. I don’t know if it’s because they saw lots of people not relying on “thoughts and prayers” when it came to a pandemic? They really hated being laughed at about the horse dewormer stuff, let me tell you that much.

      3. I think what drove some of them the craziest is that many of them have a need to be in-person to bully someone and Covid probably denied them a lot of that. I noticed the people wanting people “back to work” the most were these types. I think Joe being able to “campaign from his basement” as donnie failed to get re-elected and do the most basic of things to be popular during a pandemic really just drove them to total incoherence. Many of them were already marginal with the Pizzagate and Qanon shit, but Covid drove them right off a cliff. I think Obama getting elected, then Covid drove a large portion of our population into batshit insanity.

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        I was reading the/r/conservative response to this last night and they see themselves as persecuted and are unable to grasp why people who were unlikely to die from COVID should still take precautions against it. To you and me the story is plain and simple; we do it to hopefully slow the spread and help keep the most vulnerable as safe as possible. Hooray that worked (mostly). Now they say “see it was nothing, the vaccine was and is fake.” They’ve completely forgotten about the literal truck loads of corpses and that COVID couple have been magnitudes worse if more variants had surfaced.

        It’s awful but I kinda wish we did let it get that bad, if enough of those halfwits died the whole world would be better off.

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          Many of them will never get over vaccine mandates.

          And many of them literally think that Fauci should get the death penalty for some supposed transgression. Nothing they say is even remotely rooted in reality and it’s all quite incoherent, but boy are they mad.

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    My husband and I got Covid last week. Probably the new variant. Our latest booster was 6 months ago. This variant KICKED OUR ASS. We are on week 2 of coughing, wheezing, and feeling extremely tired. Lost a bunch of income from our respective businesses because we were not able to do any work at all.

    This was a stark reminder of how important it is to keep up with boosters. I hope that we can find a way to keep getting them, even if that means paying out of pocket or lying.

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    That is just not a proper headline… You are missing critical context? More like, “Kennedy, who recently willingly swam in literal shit with his own grandchildren, says…”

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      “Kennedy, who’s brain was ‘partially’ eaten by a worm, says…”

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    This is what happens when the Health Secretary is someone who never actually studied medicine, practiced as a doctor, or even spent time as a nurse.

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      There are public health and epidemiology degrees that would be more useful for this role than studying medicine (although doing both would be helpful, and many do). Brainworm doesn’t have any qualifications so it’s immaterial, of course.

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        It wouldn’t be so bad if he was relying on experts for his information. But he’s balls deep in conspiracy theories, spreads disinformation, and seems to be completely unqualified to speak on any matters of public health.

        He’s causing more harm than good, and his duty is supposed to be to benefit public health!

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        They need to understand the materials they are provided.

        It is necessary. Calling the head of HHS just an administrative position is part of the problem here.

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          Depends what materials they are provided.

          In terms of technical understanding the administor should just see

          “My expert in X recommends A, B or C

          “My expert in Y recommends D, E or F

          “I have resources Z

          “I choose B and D

          They don’t necessarily need to know anything about X or Y. In fact it would be preferable if they didn’t have any half baked ideas about X or Y formed from conspiracy theories.

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            They need to understand the implications of what each expert is recommending.

            They absolutely need to be capable of understanding the materials.

            Edit: Missing letters, thanks android keyboard

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                I dont think I’d put a man with decades of corps of engineering experience in the category of being without any knowledge or understanding. He had a pretty significant hand in the Manhattan project because of his experience (including the creation of the pentagon), and specifically contributed to the Manhattan project in terms of raw materials, site selection, even making selections on isotope separation based on his prior experience and the requirements around it.

                I don’t think you’re giving him enough credit. He is precisely the kind of person who understood the implications of different resources being used, how different methods would impact progress, etc.

                He’s a great example of understanding the issues around the decisions being made, not just making a selection from a menu of options.

                Thats the knowledge being discussed. Calling it “just administrative” is ignoring huge amounts of what Groves had in-depth knowledge of.

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    pregnant women

    Man, RFK really wants the US to just die out, make sure the next generation is dead or fucked up.

    Let’s not go to the US, it’s a silly place

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    His latest proclamation is he wants anyone with an NIH grant to be required to publish in a gov run journal instead of, say, Lancet or Nature. He feels they are “corrupt” without providing a shred of evidence, never mind they are peer reviewed. So he’d prefer a gov system where papers could be rejected because they don’t align with his conspiracy views and they wouldn’t be allowed to publish elsewhere.