This shows a number of things. First, how barbarian and backwards death penalty is. Second, Americans are not even good at shooting.
it’s out of their culture’s preferred shooting range, the elementary school
Come on, everyone always mentions the elementary schools, but we have plenty of other gun ranges. High schools, colleges, workplaces, shopping malls…
And in other news, South Carolina introduces bill for executions by dynamite to begin later this year.
The Vatican used to do executions using a big fucking mallet to the head. I’m surprised that hasn’t been revived yet in the US.
They’re doing firing squad executions still?
Jesus Christ.
There are even sick fucks who want to bring back electrocution.
‘‘endured pain beyond the “10-to-15 second” window of consciousness that was expected.’’
So up to 15 seconds of agony is expected. Fucking barbarians.
If only they were told it was a bad idea of a multitude of reasons.
They don’t care. Suffering is the point. They don’t want to understand how both revoking due process and allowing cruel and unusual punishment will eventually bite them in the ass.
I am against the death penalty, it’s a barbaric practice and not something a civilized country should do.
But for fucks sake, when you decide to have it, why not just heavily sedate someone first, with the help of an anesthesiologist or another medical professional?
with the help of an anesthesiologist or another medical professional
Usually medical professionals aren’t involved because it’s a violation of their oath to do no harm. So then these sadistic bumblefucks just do whatever they want.
Because no medical professional will do it.
It goes completely against the entire pride and ethics of that profession.
You don’t put yourself through all the education required to become a physician, to then help kill people against their will.Met any anti-vax nurses? I guarantee you that you could find some medical professionals who would do it.
I don’t know what’s more appalling, the number of antivax nurses or the number of people who reference their antivax nurse friends as authoritative sources. They are not doctors. They are not pathologisists. They are not immunologists, biologists, chemists, neurologists, or any other relevant ologists you can think of.
I don’t trust the Jiffy Lube oil change tech to diagnose my car’s power loss, but I guarantee they’ll have some anecdotal ideas because they “hear” about things all the time. I don’t trust an experienced mechanic to give a proper statement on reliability, either, because a mechanic will only see cars when they’re broken, biasing the sample.
So how do nurses become the voice of fact on this? I mean, I know why. It’s confirmation bias. This is more me screaming into the void, fuckin why?
Oh, I hear ya. It’s super frustrating. It’s often presented as as weird sort of “speaking truth to power” as well. “Doctors don’t know anything - my nurse friend says …”
I think a whole lot of it comes from the fact that doctors just don’t spend as much time with patients as nurses do. Nurses build a relationship with people and the doctor just swoops in for a few minutes here and there.
People trust a friend over an authority nine times out of ten. :-(
Anti-vaxxers legitimately believe that vaccines do harm. I don’t think that’s comparable.
There’s way too many that get vaccinations, then turn around and spout anti-vax nonsense for the grift. Going to medical school does not just make you a pood person.
People who promote policies that’ll get my kids killed belong in a cage. I don’t give a shit about their motivation. And using the word “legitimately” in that context is bizarre anyway. They don’t hold a legitimate belief, since their belief is unsupported by facts or reason.
Anti-vax people don’t generally hold that stance because they’re evil. They’re misinformed. Doctor willing to sedate a person whose about to get murdered and one that’s sceptical about vaccines is not equivalent.
That sounds nice but ignores mountains of readily available evidence to the contrary. Lethal injections are performed by physicians.
Lethal injections are performed by physicians.
No they are not. They’re usually performed by volunteers, most commonly EMTs or nurses. A lot of state protocols request that a physician be present to witness and call time of death, but even that’s rare.
The code of ethics in the AMA strictly prohibits physicians from participating in executions.
“A physician must not participate in a legally authorized execution,” the American Medical Association says in its Code of Medical Ethics. “When physicians participate in capital punishment, they are being utilized to intentionally inflict harm by using their medical knowledge and skills to forcibly cause death,” AMA media relations manager R.J. Mills told NPR. “Physicians who participate in capital punishment take an active role as agents of the state, not as advocates for the condemned, even if their intent is to minimize suffering.”
It’s a lesser point but still…
At less than five meters they managed to not hit his heart but they did manage to hit his pancreas and liver.
This is two people aiming at a static target, a human being, not moving, and you still managed to get that far off
For the gun touting maniacs that they are, Americans really suck at aiming
Who says they wanted to hit the vital spots?
We know it takes very little fent to stop the heart and breathing. Why not just inject 10x that and have the person slip off in opium land? Seems straightforward and foolproof.
Because the evil shitheels want the condemned person to suffer.
The article stated that there were three shooters, and only two gunshot wounds. I seem to recall from the early '70s that firing squads of five people or so always secretly loaded one weapon with blanks. That way the shooters could all convince themselves that they were the one who had the blank if their conscience bothered them. Maybe these guys did the same thing but with only three shooters…
I think if you can’t find someone with the fortitude to put a hole in the victim’s brain stem at muzzle contact range (let’s ask the people who pushed for this punishment, for example), and you have to go through all this procedure to alleviate “guilty consciences”, maybe the whole idea isn’t so great?
We should switch to execution by strangling to death by hand. The judge has to conduct the execution.
While I agree with the conclusion, making a moral judgment based on a random persons guilty conscience isn’t very reliable.
