No evidence has been seen that a genocide is occurring in Gaza or that women and children were targeted by the IDF, UK government lawyers have claimed, as a high court case opened into the handling of arms exports controls to Israel.
They also suggested there was no obligation placed on the UK to make other states comply with international humanitarian law but only to ensure that no breach occured within its jurisdiction.
The government is seeking to defend itself in a judicial review brought over allegations that it acted unlawfully in continuing to sell F-35 parts and components to a global pool, even though some of those components might be used by Israel in Gaza in a way that the government regards as a breach of international law.
Much of the case will turn on the extent to which international law places obligations in domestic law.
That lawyer should be force to move there.
One cannot see what one does not want to see.
Yes. These guys have a vested interest in their client selling F-35 parts, so they will try to paint white as black.
The interesting part will be whether the court accepts their reasoning.
“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it!” - Upton Sinclair
Defense lawyers are ethically obligated to plead for their clients; just as Otto Stahmer denied overwhelming evidence to argue for Hermann Göring’s acquittal, despite his documented role as a chief architect of the Holocaust. Meanwhile, England acts as a co-belligerent in Palestine, supplying arms to Israel, vetoing ceasefire efforts, and challenging the ICC’s jurisdiction over crimes against humanity. Its refusal to recognize genocide follows a familiar pattern: admission would compel accountability for its own complicity.
Don’t forget active reconnaissance flights from Cyprus.
Let’s hold the UK government to its own words.
Official UK statement (13 Oct 2023):
Prime Minister deploys UK military to Eastern Mediterranean to support Israel (gov.uk, archiveve.today, archive.org)
The UK government claims its military deployment, including surveillance flights from Cyprus, is for “supporting civilians to leave Gaza.” However, this aligns with Israel’s efforts to forcibly relocate Palestinians from Gaza, which many legal experts argue could constitute a war crime or even ethnic cleansing under international law.
Israel is a valuable strategic staging point for The West in the The Middle East. No Western Power will jeopardize access to it.
That’s why Israel’s behavior is tolerated, and Israel knows it.
And no, I’m not an Anti-Semite. Not all Jews are Israelis.
Yup Israel has always had a free pass cause they’re basically the only ally of west in broken and dangerous middle east.
Thats why Saudi Arabia is so fascinating - if they drag middle east out of swamp of incompetence they could make Israel redundant and take away its free pass.
if they drag middle east out of swamp of incompetence they could make Israel redundant and take away its free pass.
Is that supposed to be some kind of joke?
Saudi Arabia is the MOST incompetent of the whole bunch!
It just doesn’t matter because they literally have more money than God.
They’re so ultra-inbred incompetent that they literally founded, funded and armed a terrorist group that made their first and foremost goal the fall of Saudi Arabia under an Islamic caliphate.
They learned to stay out of wars decades ago, because they’re too mentally damaged to fight them.
I mean, until they tried to genocide Yemen, and of course got their asses handed to them by unarmed goat-herders who are still infinitely less trash.
You seem wildly confused what competence we’re talking about here. Saudi Arabia by far is the most competent Middle East country when it comes to building relationships with the west, no?
First of all no, that’d be the UAE, but more importantly you don’t need competence to build relationships with the West; you need to be a fucking sellout. Which most of the region is, but still, it’s not a matter of competence.
Yes geopolitics is about selling out to the evil capitalism scary spooky west! Don’t trip over your tank tracks.
Yes geopolitics is about selling out to the evil capitalism scary spooky west!
When that geopolitics comes at the cost of ignoring an ongoing genocide on your doorstep (and a litany of other, less flashy manifestations of Western tyranny), yes that’s true.
No.
Yup Israel has always had a free pass cause they’re basically the only ally of west in broken and dangerous middle east.
I fucking wonder who made it so “broken and dangerous”. That aside the Middle East being “broken and dangerous” is a relatively recent phenomenon; the Israeli-Western relationship came to be because the Arab world mostly fell on the side of the USSR during the cold war.
Ah yes it’s the west that did it! Not the oppressive local religion and failed culture, not that at all! /s
The perpetual victims while also being the greatest and god chosen too.
Ah yes it’s the west that did it! Not the oppressive local religion and failed culture, not that at all! /s
Yes, exactly, good thing you’re aware of that. It was the West, specifically America but also some Brits and Poles, blowing up Iraq that set this whole mess in action.
Yep, Iraq was a oasis of peace and tranquility before dubya. Peace, and tranquility. And war. And terror. And some ethnic cleansing. But mostly the tranquility.
Iraq was never a good place to live after the Iraq-Iran war, but it wasn’t in a fucking civil war either. Nothing Saddam’s government did comes even close to this.
We have a very different view of Saddam Hussein I assume.
Sure it’s everyone’s fault but the guys who are beheading children lmao
Who is that again?
They already have that free pass, they just choose to use it to murder journalists, gays, aposthates and opress women, immigrants, non-muslims and political adversaries.
I said absolutely nothing about free pass and Saudi Arabia - where are you getting that?
My point being is that Saudis connecting middle east to the west could make Israel redundant and too expensive to support. Is that clearer? There’s 0 opinions in this comment just a geopolitical observation.
I said absolutely nothing about free pass and Saudi Arabia - where are you getting that?
Well, absolutely nothing…
Thats why Saudi Arabia is so fascinating - if they drag middle east out of swamp of incompetence they could make Israel redundant and take away its free pass.
Take away Israel’s free pass not take over. Jesus dude you have reading comprehension of a 3rd grader and that’s generous.
Take away does not mean “steal” or “take over”. Just like when your mom takes away your dinosaur figurines before dinner she’s not really playing out t-rex vs stegosaurus battles herself right?
If I take away your phone, who has your phone? Maybe you should write clearer and be a bit more respectful, not jumping to insults right away.
Maybe you should take your advice and work on your reading comprehension before jumping to conclusions and trying to gaslight people. Bye
They also funded the 9/11 terrorists. Fuck that apologetic bullshit.
Not sure what that has to do with anything I said but sure
Well, you were kissing their asses like they were the Saviors of The Middle East.
They’re not.
That’s not what I said, maybe take a nap or something? You seem groggy
Thats why Saudi Arabia is so fascinating - if they drag middle east out of swamp of incompetence they could make Israel redundant and take away its free pass.
Remember that part?
I’m not interested in conversing with you ever again. Goodbye.
Reading comprehension and mental healthcare of a true American lmao
Take care
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And not all israelis are jews. I know one guy in the tsahal, he’s a christian russian.
Israel is trying to limit incidental harm to women and children? THEY ARE STARVING THE FUCKING REGION!
No no, you see, it’s a targeted starvation, they are only cutting power, medicine, water and food to the men… /s
The UK is participating in genocide.
As they walk over the dead bodies. Nothing to see here. Business as usual.
Business as usual.
Well, by the standards of the British Empire that could very well be considered true.
WTF? Even our government (Denmark) foreign minister is alarmed by what Israel is doing in Gaza, and he is traditionally very pro Israel!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_genocide
According to a United Nations Special Committee,[37] Amnesty International, and other experts and human rights organisations, Israel is committing genocide against the Palestinian people
This is so widely reported and acknowledged the only way to ignore it is extreme bias or more likely corruption.
It is also absolutely clear that Israel is committing war crimes regularly, there is zero doubt t about it, and the political leadership in Israel is wanted criminals because of it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Criminal_Court_arrest_warrants_for_Israeli_leaders
On 21 November 2024, following an investigation of war crimes and crimes against humanity, the International Criminal Court (ICC) issued arrest warrants for two senior Israeli officials, Benjamin Netanyahu, the Prime Minister of Israel, and Yoav Gallant, the former Minister of Defense of Israel,
Please UK, don’t go as corrupt malignant and stupid on us as USA. 🙏
Ever since Brexit I think it’d a little late for that.
Brexit was bad, but hopefully we can still work closely together. UK is still finding their footing after Brexit.
USA is a different more fundamental break of trust, which I would hate to see repeated with UK.
In most EU countries USA is now more unpopular than China!UK is on a route where they are balancing EU and USA against each other, while completely forgetting that it was not EU that wanted the break, and EU is still their friend, and USA is not. just look how USA is treating Canada! It’s insane that UK is looking towards USA considering how unfriendly USA has become even to their closest ally!
Well of course Lawyers would say that. Defending amoral actions by their clients is their raison d’etre.
I’m more curious what the judges say tbh
