Uh, what a weird message. It’s not only unrelated to what I said but it reads like an attempt to twist my words. On top of it, it’s totally wrong: Lemmy is free. I can self host Lemmy on a raspberry pi for exactly 0€.
The instance I use… Is also free. I donate because I choose to, but if my friend can’t afford to donate they can still use the instance. Nobody is profiting from it.
What I did talk about is products and doing business with corporations. With Lemmy there’s no product, whether you pay or not. With SearxNG (which many people self host, and again, is free) you’re not the product, regardless of how much you pay.
That’s what I was replying to - your comment is way off the mark and very condescending: I don’t need to be mansplained that I should donate to the software I already donate to. Note donate rather than pay for.
Lemmy is free. I can self host Lemmy on a raspberry pi for exactly 0€.
Dang, where can I get a free Raspberry Pi and internet connection? That sounds awesome!
The instance I use… Is also free. I donate because I choose to, but if my friend can’t afford to donate they can still use the instance. Nobody is profiting from it.
This is exactly my point. It’s like when people call it “free healthcare”.
You misunderstood the pinned post; it’s soliciting donations for core Lemmy development, not for the .world instance.
The core devs use donations to the project to fund their tankie .ml instance, which is why they’re getting pushback. There is zero comparable pushback among the community towards funding .world or other instances.
The person I replied argued that you are obligated to donate if you want to keep Lemmy free.
Right now the Lemmy developers are asking for donations, and people are saying no.
The developers are openly communist, and if you want to use Lemmy you’ll have to learn to live .ml, it’s not going to change.
They are openly authoritarian “communists”, you don’t need to simp for China, Russia or NK to be a communist. But they do and they leverage the .ml Instance to do so. This is the point of contention for most (including myself) donating to them, and it was brought up in those threads numerous times. If they put in place a new admin team that was as unbiased and fair as possible, they would massively increase in donations. They won’t though because they know exactly what they’re doing with .ml to further their personal political ideology.
To paraphrase one user on one of those threads “Devs should do dev work and not mod work, admins/mods should do admin/mod work and not dev work”.
Tankie is a pejorative label generally applied to authoritarian communists, especially those who support or defend acts of repression by such regimes, their allies, or deny the occurrence of the events thereof.
“Paid search engine” <— no thanks.
If you’re not paying, you’re the product.
That’s only when doing business with corporations, but there’s also the option of open source (e.g. SearxNG).
Or do you consider yourself the product when using Lemmy?
Do you think Lemmy is free? Your admin is paying, and trusting you to donate to help out.
Uh, what a weird message. It’s not only unrelated to what I said but it reads like an attempt to twist my words. On top of it, it’s totally wrong: Lemmy is free. I can self host Lemmy on a raspberry pi for exactly 0€.
The instance I use… Is also free. I donate because I choose to, but if my friend can’t afford to donate they can still use the instance. Nobody is profiting from it.
What I did talk about is products and doing business with corporations. With Lemmy there’s no product, whether you pay or not. With SearxNG (which many people self host, and again, is free) you’re not the product, regardless of how much you pay.
That’s what I was replying to - your comment is way off the mark and very condescending: I don’t need to be mansplained that I should donate to the software I already donate to. Note donate rather than pay for.
Dang, where can I get a free Raspberry Pi and internet connection? That sounds awesome!
This is exactly my point. It’s like when people call it “free healthcare”.
Ironic considering the pinned post on .world is the admins asking for donations and pretty much everyone is saying “no”
You misunderstood the pinned post; it’s soliciting donations for core Lemmy development, not for the .world instance.
The core devs use donations to the project to fund their tankie .ml instance, which is why they’re getting pushback. There is zero comparable pushback among the community towards funding .world or other instances.
Functionally there’s no difference.
The person I replied argued that you are obligated to donate if you want to keep Lemmy free. Right now the Lemmy developers are asking for donations, and people are saying no.
The developers are openly communist, and if you want to use Lemmy you’ll have to learn to live .ml, it’s not going to change.
They are openly authoritarian “communists”, you don’t need to simp for China, Russia or NK to be a communist. But they do and they leverage the .ml Instance to do so. This is the point of contention for most (including myself) donating to them, and it was brought up in those threads numerous times. If they put in place a new admin team that was as unbiased and fair as possible, they would massively increase in donations. They won’t though because they know exactly what they’re doing with .ml to further their personal political ideology.
To paraphrase one user on one of those threads “Devs should do dev work and not mod work, admins/mods should do admin/mod work and not dev work”.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie