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Ah yes, the “gesture reminiscent of a Hitler salute”
Edit: To be very clear, it is a Hitler salute. I was mocking some German news sites that said it was only “reminiscent of one”.
It’s called the Nazi salute
No, it’s not. It’s Hitlergruß in German and that’s how I choose to say it.
But you didn’t say that on original comment
because I translated it 1:1?
Fair enough
This thing is The Homer, but if Homer watched back to the future and was a nazi.
From the first demo of the bullet proof glass shattering, it was obvious this was trash.
There’s a guy near me who drives one, he parks it next to the garbage dumpster and it fits in perfectly.
The Homer was fugly, but it was fun.
CyberDumpster is fugly, and lacks fun. Even if you take Muskrat’s politics out of the equation, the dumpster isn’t functional, and is outperformed by a Honda half its price.
There is someone who has one in my area and taking a look at him…he just looks like a guy who has always tried so painfully to be in the cool crowd, so he jumps first into new things, but just keeps failing. And, it’s very clear that he can’t do anything else with it because he dropped so much money on it and likely can’t afford to “trade-in” for half its value.
CyberDumpster is fugly, and lacks fun.
Every aspect of its design is overtly hostile, both to its driver and passengers and everybody outside. It’s as if pure robotic hatred of all mankind was distilled into a pickup “truck”.
Fucking thing is knives on wheels. I book it wherever I see one, I don’t want them anywhere near me.
it was only ever released to pump the stocks, so he can had the 54bn pay package at the time.
Are you kidding, the Homer had a domed windshield, two of them! … full 360 degree unobstructed view of the world … what does the cybertruck have? Angles! … The Homer was way ahead of its time
THE HOMER HAD A LA CUCARACHA HORN. BIG AUTO KILLED IT.
The first thing my grandpa did when we he bought a new car was install one of these lol
Also a siren. I don’t know why he wanted a siren so bad.
The CyberCab will have a horn that plays Kid Rock’s Bawtidaba.
Now I want a LA CUCARACHA horn for my vehicle
The Homer itself is full of practical decisions (see things well, keep the noisy kids away), my analogy is Homer knew nothing about car design, designed something nobody wanted, and the company invested so much into the idea it basically ruined them.
Racket pinion steering!
Not rackin peanut station?? Not buying it without the peanuts
The Simpsons predict the Cybertruck
bullet proof glass shattering
Bullet proof glass is supposed to shatter? That’s part of how it absorbs the energy from the bullets…
Yeah, when it’s shot.
have you seen the demo? it was quite obvious they didn’t want it to shatter.
You can’t legally put shatterproof glass in a car. The side windows are designed to shatter to allow EMT rescue.
Musk engineers knew this, they were just too scared to tell him it was another fucking stupid idea.
Hey just wanted to comment about the EMT rescue part:
US sold vehicles can have laminated side windows that don’t shatter open, and it’s been a huge educational issue for years because people are using traditional window breakers on them in emergency situations and the tool won’t open them. It’s only gotten worse since that article, as auto manufacturers are installing more laminated side windows to prevent ejection during a rollover event.
Might want to check if your vehicle has them. Best list I could find was from 2019.
You can’t legally put shatterproof glass in a car.
???
Plenty of armored car makers do it every day.
That’s aftermarket specialty applications.
Do you want a car you cannot be removed from in case of accident or fire?
I was curious as my car has laminated side windows, and dug into it possibly far further than was entirely sane. The summary is yes, you can indeed use shatterproof glass in passenger windows.
This can be found in 49 CFR § 571.205 S5.1, which specifies all glazing materials must conform to ANSI/SAE Z 26.1-1996. If we look at ANSI/SAE Z 26.1-2007 (a later update of the standard which is not meaningfully different for our purposes - I have elected to link to it here rather than 1996 as it is able to be found online without a paywall) and go to Table 1, Page 10, Items 1, 2, 10 and 11A, we can see that standards are given for the use of laminated glass for all positions (item 1), all positions except windshield (item 2), bullet-resistant glass for all window positions (10) and specifically laminated bullet-resistant glass for all positions except windshield (11A)
Windshield glass is all laminated.
The regulations stipulate windshields must be made of laminated glass, insulated glass (a Multiple Glazed Unit), bullet resistant glass or (except in convertibles or other vehicles without a roof) glass-plastic. It also allows for equivalent-or-higher performance materials that may be developed in the future but are not covered by the current standards.
These ones don’t. Many people have died because fire fighters couldn’t break the glass.
Far more people have died from being ejected through the window, which is why the testing requirements in 49 CFR §571.226 were expanded to now in effect require at least laminated glass for front passenger windows along with curtain airbags in new vehicles. Deaths from being trapped by laminated glass are overwhelmingly the product of improper identification of the glass type and/or lack of the correct tool - laminated glass is very easily cleared when one is both trained and expecting it, even using tools like a standard fire axe or crowbar, but the technique is not obvious and unexpected complications in high pressure situations are paid for with lives.
With a specialized tool like a rescue glass saw the window can be removed in seconds, and the lives saved by preventing ejection in a high speed impact or rollover far outweigh those lost to being trapped by fire. It’s a dreadful algebra, but moving the industry towards using laminated glass was the correct decision.
If you’re concerned, get a dedicated laminated glass extraction tool; I have used & carry with me a lifeline evac pro and it performed very well, although it’s absurdly expensive - I recommend picking up one of the many clones of the tool, which I doubt will last for more than a handful of escapes or rescues, but unless you are in emergency response or live in a particularly accident-prone region (as I do) you (I very much hope) will never need to perform multiple rescues in your lifetime and can absolutely use the cheaper knockoff designs.
Yeah, it seems more like he’s just doesn’t understand how bullet proof glass works and thought it means “indestructible”
It shattered from the power of Musk’s arm which means it probably won’t stop a bullet.
Imagine what getting replacement parts for that “truck” will be now.
Same for the models X and S. The S was actually a decent car. Sucks to own one now.
"Dear Elon,
Your constant inquiries have gone beyond annoying, so I’m going to give it to you straight: You will never be invited to my island.
Look, the truth is, you’re just too fucking weird. It’s hard enough to keep these girls in the game, pretending to enjoy sexing up these sweaty, fat old pigs, without some grotesque naked goblin prancing around, randomly emitting strange noises like a howler monkey with Tourette’s. You’ll scare the crap out of my kittens. They’re only little girls, after all.
I wish you well in your future endeavors, but lose my number.
Your friend,
Jeff"
Lmao imagine being too disgusting for pedophiles; it doesn’t get any shittier than that!!
Thanks, but I already have a Samsung fridge.
I’m not getting in one of those. I will walk. No thank you.
This Cybercuck needs to go to jail
He’s killing the dumpster Delorean right after those midterms. Curious…
No thanks.
From Garbage Truck to Slop Taxi
If you get in and it perceives you as the wrong shade, does it automatically lock and deliver you to a detention centre?
It explodes like JohnnyCab.
And he still found a way to make luxury cars from the future tacky.
Can’t wait to read the same headline for the Robo Taxi and androids.
If we have fully autonomous cars, why would we need cabs?
1… Buy fully autonomous car
2… rent it out as an autonomous cab
3… use an autonomous cab to get around
4… ???
5… Profit
This works if most people don’t have an autonomous car too, so they are forced to rent one. The business case for this is such level of poverty where most people cannot afford owning a car; and then a petty rentier class exploiting them for pennies. Welcome to neo-feudalism.
I don’t want someone riding around in my car unsupervised. Give me good public transport instead!
Exactly.
It’s a matter of who owns the resource, and your current state assumption is what oligarchs want to change.
Just like PCs, they will structure it so you won’t be able to afford one. For vehicles they’ll use the insurance industry as a wedge as well, and as more and more people lease/rent their vehicle with included insurance(this will be one of the talking points for the owners class selling you one), those trying to not have a rent payment will see their premiums ever increase.
Think about how insane car prices have gotten ecen for used vehicles in the last few years–and It’s not improving even though all the “supply chain” issues attributed to COVID have long ended. It’s the same system phenomenon that happens in gentrifying areas with the existing minorities; property values go up, as do property taxes and even long-time residents who own their home free and clear can’t afford the property tax increases–it snowballs into additional gentrification.
It’s a matter of who owns the resource,
Yes so Musk wants us to drive cabs as in not owning our own cars, and Sam Altman wants us to not own our own AI but rent it from ChatGPT.
THEY want it that way to monopolize a service and make more money.
The question was why would WE want it?The question was why would WE want it?
Because otherwise, you’ll have no car and no computer.
It’s classic capitalist rent-seeking. Take away your access to something, then rent it back to you.
Because otherwise, you’ll have no car and no computer.
What? Why the hell not? Musk cannot prevent Toyota and VW from selling cars and Sam Altman cannot prevent people from buying computers.
They may be delusional, but why make it out like their delusions have any foundation in reality?You are both right. That’s what they want, and that’s what we need to resist. Because without active resistance they will try to prevent you from owning things (which today they can’t yet).
I don’t see any way they should be able to prevent people from owning things. That would need to some dystopian government interference that I don’t see possible to happen, not even in the corrupt USA.
A large percentage of the world’s population has experienced government interference including and beyond who can own what. It is very possible to happen, and thinking otherwise, respectfully, is unfortunately what helps it make happen.
musk wants to go to mars so bad because there are no labor laws on mars
No age of consent either.
