• arrow74@lemm.ee
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    1 day ago

    I’m always very intrigued by those pushing the rhetoric that it’s too late to use elections to solve this, and admonish anyone that tries.

    But at the same time they themselves refuse to start a revolution they insist is the only way. While simultaneously waiting for someone else to do it for them.

    In the end the suggestion seems to be to not do anything and hope someone else does it for you. Be that by democratic means or armed means.

    If you’re not starting the rebellion you sure as hell need to be engaged with the existing democratic proccess. Otherwise you’re just not doing anything at all. Which is the worst option

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      Not waiting for someone else but just trying to get people to understand that revolution is necessary. The people havent lost enough yet.

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      So first: You do realize there will likely be no free and fair elections until Trump is overthrown right? It’s too late to solve this using elections because there will be no elections. You’re in the equivalent of 1933 Germany after the Enabling Act, where the Act is substituted by the Republican majority in Congress and the lack of consequences for Trump doing whatever he wants.

      Second and more relevantly, though: Revolutions aren’t just “started;” they happen when political unrest reaches a boiling point and is given some kind of trigger. You see the protests in LA? That’s building towards the revolution. A revolution can then turn violent due to violent backlash from the state, but either way it is literally impossible to “start” a revolution in the way you’re talking about. I mean hell, the fall of the Bastille wasn’t exactly planned; it just kind of happened. If a revolution does happen I’d put the start at the current LA protests, but I digress. The point is: To get a revolution, you don’t necessarily need to grab a gun and shoot cops, but you do need to resist on the streets. Again LA is a good example of what I’m talking about, so what I’m calling for is, for starters, more of that in more parts of America. Organize among your community and in your workplace and please someone go on strike already.

      PS: I’m not American, so internet forums are about as much as I can get in on the action.

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        23 hours ago

        Is it possible that not being American your not fully aware of all the cultural views, different groups of people and their views, etc to be making these kind of declarations?

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          I don’t think so, no. At the pace democracy is being dismantled at in America, there is simply no possibility of a free and fair midterm. Remember that we’re still not even half a year into this administration.

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            That’s not all you claimed. I’m just taken back by the confidence in which people tell US citizens what’s happening in their own country and what they should do. Especially when people seem to get upset when Americans do the same thing.

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              That’s not all you claimed.

              Then what else did I claim?

              Especially when people seem to get upset when Americans do the same thing.

              Do they? If you have a nuanced and informed take on Middle Eastern politics or know how to dismantle a military dictatorship I’m all ears.

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                Then what else did I claim?

                Speaking of revolution in the US, how it will or won’t happen. That’s a pretty big one.

                Do they?

                Yes, they do.