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        I don’t know why you’re saying “if.” They are taught logical fallacies, and…

        gesticulates wildly at nation

        If American students were taught to identify and avoid committing logical fallacies, then they’d be in a better place.

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          They’ve made that part of the curriculum, at least here in Jersey. Obviously they missed it for the many decades prior. Oh well! And I’m referring to basically news literacy and being able to fact check things, specifically.

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          I meant if they were taught what logical fallacies are (and how to recognize them). What they are actually taught relies on logical fallacies and would crumble if they understood it for what it is. Pretty sure we’re saying the same thing.

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            Yes, I agree. I was making a joke about how backward, and often times completely incorrect, US education is, i.e., they are teaching the children logical fallacies.

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    Part of being powerful is a reduction in cognitive load. You don’t have to worry about what those strange foreign language speakers think or want because you have the guns and money. They have to worry about what you want. Being asked to learn another land’s language places them equal or higher in the hierarchy.

    You just can’t allow that kind of thinking. I mean, what next, calling foreigners human? /s

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      Yes really. I watched Arrival three times, each time making it worse. That’s the whole plot, unfortunately.

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    Isn’t the girl from Québec in the movie? They go get her from a university in Montreal, if I remember correctly…

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    Lean

    Oh, the irony.

    Bit oblivious, more like.

    What value does a foreign language have for Bob, who lives in the middle of the country?

    I learned two languages in school, have never used either one with a native speaker of that language.

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        America has 300 different answers for “what language do you speak at home with family”.

        Three hundred.

        You could have 6 different languages per state, with no overlap, just by shuffling people around.

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          Yeah and there are people that speak Basque in Spain. However, you won’t find many that are not Basque speaking that language. The Basque speakers all mostly speak Spanish.

          Same thing in the US. Sure there are people that speak 300 languages, but the majority speak English. They are also spread out.

          Only major exception would be Spanish

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            And even in the US there are a pretty good amount of native English speakers who have learned Spanish for this reason.

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          I mean, I understand the spirit, but that’s bit too close to ethnic cleansing.

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        You have a different language in each house. If you want to learn or practice a new language, you’ll find speakers in any community.

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      Sense of wonder from discovering how different people from different places think similarly or differently of the same experiences, or different experiences you never thought about.
      Otherwise, maybe trying to interact with the immigrants probably covering the essential jobs in his small town that nobody else wants to do.

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        Sense of wonder from discovering how different people from different places think similarly or differently of the same experiences, or different experiences you never thought about.

        I mean, I’m sure some percentage of people who learn a language do so for that reason. But the vast, vast majority of time someone learns another language it’s going to be because they expect to use it, I imagine.

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        immigrants probably covering the essential jobs in his small town that nobody else wants to do.

        I heard from others say “they’re not your tutor” and they just switch back to English with me 😭

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          It will depend on the people and how you approach them, some will be happy to learn your interest, some will expect that it goes both ways and some will not want to be bothered. That’s just normal human things.

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      What value does a foreign language have for Bob, who lives in the middle of the country?

      I learned two languages in school, have never used either one with a native speaker of that language.

      We have a huge population of Spanish speaking people here.

      There’s roughly the same amount of people in the US that speak Spanish that do in Spain.