I will no longer be offering money to receive playstation games. 🤷♂️
Fair
So don’t buy a fucking Playstation.
This isn’t that hard to sort out.
I already have one because they were the best platform when it came to actually owning your games.
If they could be trusted to treat digital copies as actual ownership, this wouldn’t be such a big deal.
Cool. If thats the case I will no longer be offering Playstation my money for games.
I’d feel more strongly about this if I’d actually bought a game on a physical disc anytime in the last 3 years.
They’re often cheaper on disc. Random sales here and there nearly always undercut the PSN price.
The real reason I’ve not bought many this gen was PS Plus. There’s a lot of games I’d have been vaguely interested in picking up on a decent sale, only they’ve never been on one, and then went on PS Plus so now aren’t worth buying at all.
Realistically the loss of physical discs means we need far more robust digital rights. The right to trade games to other accounts. The right to continue playing them if the store closes, loading games and licence keys from USB etc. That last one is going to need some thought to prevent abuse, but I think it’s essential if we’re going to live in a digital future. On PC that last one could be done by transferring licenses to another store maybe.
It should still matter to you, unless you don’t mind paying $80 for every game. The competition of physical game pricing and the secondhand market helps keep digital prices lower as well.
Yeah, but why not? I enjoy having access to the game within the same 10 minutes I buy it…
Now downloading, that’s a different story.
How many modern 3d games are there that fit on a reasonable amount of disks? Don’t you usually have to download shit either way?
When was the last time you bought a game on some physical storage and did not have to download etc. things anyway?
OK, but you can sell the disc after using it or share it with friends…
That is the big ticket. We need to be able to sell digital items.
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3 years? About 15 years for me. Whenever civ 5 was released.
At this rate why sell hardware to people anymore? Might as well rip the bandaid and make it a cloud-gaming device.
Many people will tolerate digitally distributed games, but not subscriptions
Do not worry, Sony is not at all known for taking away from people digital media which they keep in their servers for those people
/s (just in case)
I’ve been a PlayStation guy since 1998. Looks like the PS5 is my last PlayStation console.
Steam being all digital is fine because I’m buying games for 75-90% off… If I got told I was losing access to a game I played $2.50 for 6 years ago and played for 40 hours I would… actually I’d still be annoyed but less annoyed than losing hundreds of dollars.
Steam lets you play games that you bought, even if they’ve been delisted in the meantime.
Steam is the good guy (for now). GOG is even better though, since they let you save offline installers with no DRM.
Yep, Love GOG
Also, if they delist a game you had, you can just sail the high seas easily, and there are even revival projects for always-online games that reverse engineer servers.
Play station will no longer be offering games- Yup still no games
I stopped when they fucked me on my PS3, update and lose linux ability or don’t update and lose netflix and any online purchased games.
And that’s were i left console for PC
At least you can jailbreak a PS3 and add back the Other OS feature.
I played it till it red-ringed. my last sony purchase.
So, having a PC is better again, because there is not subscription for online services there…?
I might get a used PS5 to play some exclusives when it can be had for cheap. But I reckon people will cling to theirs.
I think most of those games will still require a big chunk of the game to be downloaded from their servers, which who knows how long will be available.
Happy cake day!
Hadn’t realized it. Thanks!
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Didn’t Nintendo already start doing this with the switch two?
The opposite, with Switch1 there were a bunch of games where third parties cheaped out and just put a code in a box.
Switch2 added game-key cards to replace the code-in-a-box with a license dongle in the shape of a cart.
It still requires the eshop to download the game, but it’s not tied to an account, it’s tied to the card, which can be resold or lent out.
Solves a few of the issues with digital while doing nothing for preservation.
There are still code in a box games, I have one
They are gonna remove games in future like they did with the movies
They already have lol.
Licensed titles are different. Unless they’ve done that for non-licensed titles.
Kindle literally removed 1984 from people’s devices
That was a case where the seller literally didn’t have the rights to the book. If you search for the title today you’ll find a version that is listed as the Authorized Orwell Edition.
Not the same as what I was referring to. Video games based on licensed IPs, often get taken down from digital game stores because the publisher’s license has ended. What you described with 1984 is someone who shouldn’t be selling the media, having sold it. Sure, it sucks if the title disappeared from your device but maybe that was the only legal resolution?
The proper legal resolution would be refunding the customer and then settle it between Amazon and the author that didn’t have the rights to sell what they sold. If I buy some food at the grocery store and there’s a recall due to for example contamination, I can go back to the store and get a refund. I can even go to any store selling the same item without an invoice and get a refund (for their list price I think). This is at least the deal in Denmark. This should be the same if something was sold with a missing license or improper license (if it is sold as a product but the license the seller has expires and is not renewed)
Conveying something to someone in perpetuity (i.e. “selling” it to them) when you don’t have the right to do so is fraud. Just because Amazon or whoever’s right to continue offering the thing ended doesn’t mean their customers’ property rights somehow end with it.
It’s exactly as absurd as a car dealer stealing back all the cars they previously sold just because they ended their agreement with the manufacturer.
There is absolutely no sane world in which stealing your customers’ property could ever be the “only legal resolution!”
Sometimes the license for the music in games expires and developers/publishers just remove it from the games.
That, by itself, is absolutely outrageous and absurd. The game developer’s failure to license the music appropriately is between them and the music copyright holder; nothing gives them the right to steal the content back from the third parties they conveyed it to in perpetuity.
Agreed, licensing for anything like that in game should be required to be permanent. Only exception I can possibly think of is live service games where the content cycles out of availability.
I wouldn’t argue just that it should be; I would argue that it is and we have a massive problem with the FTC failing to enforce existing law.
I think it will no longer be available as an option.
