• ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    4
    ·
    14 days ago

    The US wouldn’t be capitulating right now if they were in a position to continue the war, and Israel can’t do shit on its won. They will absolutely try to keep the war going, but they’re running up against material limits here. I also doubt Trump himself really matters all that much here, there’s a huge amount of political capture by Israel in the US, and this lobby is going to push for war no matter what. But US economy and military industry isn’t capable of continuing it.

    • Pissed@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      13 days ago

      Israel started the war again. They don’t care about reality anymore. They’re completely insane and I don’t think Trump has the power to stop Israel, to see Israel or the US as a rational actor right now is strategically dangerous. When have fascists ever been wed to material reality. If that were the case the world would look very different.

      • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        edit-2
        13 days ago

        Bibi is going to jail if the war stops, so he can’t stop the war. But I agree it goes beyond him, the whole society is fascist and it this point not even rational anymore.

        • Pissed@lemmy.ml
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          edit-2
          13 days ago

          Do you really think the libs are going to lock any one up??? They’re so fucking captured by capital idk if I trust those fuckers to do anything anymore. I agree that Hitler I mean Bibi wants to keep the war going for as long as possible. All I know is I hope to see the fucking day some of these people are executed for all the pain and suffering they unleashed onto the world, and I don’t really believe in the death penalty, but the amount of pain and chaos they unleashed onto all of us has to be punished.

          • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            3
            ·
            13 days ago

            Oh, I don’t mean he’s going to get jailed over any of this stuff. It’s more that there are factions and infighting internally.

            • Pissed@lemmy.ml
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              edit-2
              13 days ago

              Yeah but they’re all fighting over the same bad premise which is why I don’t have any hope that Israelis will be able to do this internally. Like I still feel bad for some of them, and I don’t believe in the general population of Israel being punished for this bullshit but the people who KNEW they definitely deserve to be executed. Their crimes went to far, and believe me they did know.

              • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                3
                ·
                13 days ago

                For sure, bibi is just a symptom here. The whole society is fundamentally fascist. I think the real problem they have though is that the US has run into material limits of what it can do. And Israel can’t really fight this war on their own, so if the US is tapped out then they’re in very deep trouble.

                • Pissed@lemmy.ml
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  ·
                  edit-2
                  13 days ago

                  Yeah I just think that the general fascist mindset has ruined so much of the world that people literally don’t care about material reality anymore. This shit fucking sucks… Remember that Hitler was literally in a bunker commanding fake tank battalion’s before the idiot was forced to shoot himself fascist idealism is a hell of a drug, and these guys are even higher than I am!

                  • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    3
                    ·
                    13 days ago

                    It’s kind of a general problem we in the west now, everything is purely driven by ideology at this point and we’re becoming more and more disconnected from the material reality of the world each and every day. I really do think there’s going to be a massive crash, and Israel might act as the catalyst for it.