• Nighed@feddit.uk
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    11
    ·
    15 hours ago

    I thought AI prices were going up, not down? I assume this is Google using it’s deep(er) pockets to lose more money to get more market share… But the price must go up right? Or are consumer chat bots with their smaller contexts profitable?

    • NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      8
      ·
      14 hours ago

      They’re begging people to use it because they pay musk 950mil per Month for access to spacex compute power

  • BlueLagoon@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    81
    ·
    edit-2
    1 day ago

    Of course they did. They’ll keep lowering the price until they’re the king, and then screw everyone over with charges, ads and more data harvesting (If that’s even possible) like Google always does.

    Or it’ll crash and burn and it’ll end up in the Google grave yard. Either way, fuck Google.

      • cecilkorik@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        23
        ·
        1 day ago

        Hot take: It’s a useful tool for debugging because it is, in a very overcomplicated way, a good search algorithm (like Google itself USED to be before it was ruined by SEO and ads) and probabilistic, large language model search is potentially a good solution for finding and discovering useful content from the internet that real people have created. No, you can’t absolutely trust its outputs of course, but neither can you trust everything else you find on the Internet either. It’s dangerous because it’s convincing, not because it’s wrong. Things being wrong or misleading should be expected. This is the internet.

        Generative AI is generally pretty shit-quality plagiarism that is good at convincing people it is novel and brilliant because it’s borrowing novelty and brilliance from millions of people at once. It’s a pretty awful technology. Maybe it has some genuine applications, though I haven’t thought of too many that aren’t completely nihilistic. But machine learning and language models in general do absolutely have genuinely interesting applications. It requires a nuanced understanding of what they are and what they’re doing, which is a level of understanding that I don’t think a lot of the current AI-pushers even have themselves.

      • wholookshere@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        12
        ·
        1 day ago

        I’ve never found it more useful than the rubber duck my first senior dev gave me.

        Explaining the problem and explaining your code has been more reliable to me, even if to a rubber duck. (Well now he has friends but still)

    • unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      6
      ·
      1 day ago

      I just downvote all AI related news that isnt politically meaningful. If its just yapping about specifics like this then its basically just an ad.

    • Thatuserguy@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      9 hours ago

      Gemini 2.5 used to be solid. It still would fuck up sometimes, but its ability to remember small details throughout a long conversation and weave them in as relevant was phenomenal. It felt conversationally good to use it for that reason, at least for bouncing ideas off of and getting perspectives I didn’t consider myself.

      Every model of it since has been like talking to a compulsive liar that also has dementia. Like someone you can largely trust to go cook some eggs, but tell them to go grab a complex recipe I asked for last week and make it again, and they’ll confidently say they’ve never seen that recipe before or made it in their life. I guess lobotomizing your product compared to your competitors all in the name of saving on cost seemed like a good idea to someone at Google

      • Squizzy@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        7 hours ago

        I got the top gemini plan for a year, nownuktra exists so I guess not best anymore.

        It was good, useful becuase search sucks and it was handy. I told it to remember my preference for foss and privacy and eu manufactured.

        It would not fuck off with that. It either got it wrong, “try huawei this or that, falls out of scope but is a good product” or I would ask for local activities “Ice cream fest is on in the city, free entry for kids. I COULD NOT FIND ANY INFORMATION STRICTLY NOTING THE FESTIVAL AS BEING FOSS OR HAVING A PROVACY FOCUS”

        “IT IS ALSO NOT NOTED TO WORK WITH PHILIPS HUE WHICH YOU HAVE ENQUIRED ABOUT BEFORE”

        “WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO LOOK MORE NICHE ACTIVITIES THAT COULD PIQUE AN INTEREST FOR YOU AND THE FAMILY WHILE ALSO FURTHER INCORPORATING YOUR PREFERENCES”

    • Holytimes@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      6
      ·
      17 hours ago

      I had to switch to Gemini on my phone cause Google assistant kept crashing my entire fucking phone no matter what I tried. Even a full wipe and start over it would just crash it.

      The thing is fucking worthless. I use it basically ONLY to turn my lights on/off from bed and to call my mother while driving

      90% of the time it doesn’t understand what a light is and the other half it just randomly calls someone on my contacts instead of who i said.

      Google assistant at least was reliable when it wasn’t out right nonfunctioning.

        • Jrockwar@feddit.uk
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          7 hours ago

          It was at the beginning, but lately it’s been hot garbage. I think they’ve nerfed it on purpose so that the migration to gemini is an easier sell.

          For me, I’m happy it now understands “hey Google, how’s my timer?” As equivalent of “how long is left on my timer” and no longer answers that question with “it’s seven fifty two pm” 😡

      • whaleross@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        15 hours ago

        And Google Assistant was even better once upon a time before Google decided to make it worse to force people over to Gemeni despite it having no functionality more than a subpar chatbot with a search engine. It could not even tell the time out loud and even less set a timer or alarm.

  • GreenBeard@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    17
    ·
    1 day ago

    I’m sorry, unless I’m getting paid to use AI, I’m not using AI, and we can discuss my fees for using these things. These aren’t a consumer product, they’re a job. I’m not getting paid to bag groceries either, I’m not paying for the privilege of working for Google.

  • adarza@piefed.ca
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    10
    ·
    1 day ago

    lowering the price and doubling the storage.

    meanwhile, new google/gmail accounts are getting 5gb instead of 15.