Oh no.

The horror. Please don’t do this.

Please don’t include education Healthcare and child care either.

That’s the absolute worst thing you could do to create a socialist state.

Let’s not give these people all the power to make the decisions in the state either. It would also be really bad. They might do things like make sure everybody’s paid a living wage.

Ah yes we should just swallow everything any NATO country tells us as an objective fact.

Understood.

Ugh.

• Omar Khadr: Pled guilty to spying in Canada in 2010 was held in gitmo Bay before being transferred to Canada

Seriously I don’t know why I’m I’m even dignifying this with a response because we both know that they hold people there that they accuse of being terrorist or Spies of terrorists without any due process and so we don’t know their names typically and we don’t know why they’re in there other than what the US government will tell us which isn’t much.

We also have multiple officials from that time admitting that the president and most the administration from that time knew that most of the people put in gitmo Bay were innocent And kept there because it was politically expedient. And that’s just according to Wikipedia.

Still it’s not a far stretch to imagine that United States has imprisoned foreign spies in places like gitmo Bay without informing the public.

Sorry I read something else and got confused I’ll go correct the information later.

hurr durr none of these were spies. They were only accused of spying

Duh

Ahmed al Halabi

This guy was actually acquitted of the charges but was still horribly abused inside the prison: Captain James Yee

Mohammed Hashim

Omar Ahmed Khadr

I mean these are just a few. This wasn’t even hard to look up. Did you not expect that there would be actual spies in one of the US terrorist torture camps?

~~That’s an interesting part of the story but in this case this Canadian tourist hadn’t live in the country at all. I feel like the speed at which he entered the US and then died indicates a problem with us custody and handling.

Like I feel like it’s more egregious if you lived in the country for 30 years and then you know were prosecuted as a spy but to just die from being detained is total bullshit~~

Misread something not valid.

Someone’s never heard of Gitmo Bay 🤣

Iran has not confirmed that they have him in detention and this was a spy. They literally caught a US spy. Do you know what we do to people we catch spying in the US?

This is quite literally not the same thing. The US has accidentally killed a Canadian tourist. If a part of Iran’s government killed a US citizen we’d use that to launch War today.

Eh nothing of value was lost

I was going to say that’s still better than the Lemmy scene.

Just because we know it won’t get through doesn’t mean we shouldn’t keep trying to push impeachment articles as often as possible.

I mean it only took like two or three Democrat deaths to swing the house in the Republican direction so that the Republicans can get some shit through that could always happen the other way around because the gerontocracy is on both sides

Grass root movements! Very hopeful to see. Hopefully they are in for the long haul.

It seems like a really excellent response that’s well informed and source well.

It does seem like the most plausible explanation

It’s bad when George Bush seems like a better president than Trump

I mean Pakistan felt compelled to at least put his name in for the Nobel Peace Prize. That means he probably did something but who knows how much she was actually involved for whether or not this is all just a political stunt.

I also remember reading somewhere that India was the one that called Trump to negotiate a ceasefire after Pakistan responded. I can’t tell what’s misinformation this day without spending a ton of time researching the history of the topic

Given the incredibly right wing bent of the current Indian government I’m okay if our relations aren’t exactly Frosty.

Trump blowing up us relations with countries is just another day

But but I thought Israel was the only western style democracy in the middle east… /s

Israel not look like a tin pot dictatorship challenge. Impossible