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  • bigschnitz@lemmy.worldtoFuck Cars@lemmy.worldNo words
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    3 days ago

    The guy who made it explicitly rejected a van for his purposes. Maybe we should let him decide how to do his job?

    Your argument is the extreme minority who make this decision differently than everyone, exclusively limited to countries that have heavy government incentives to do so, being free to make an impractical choice somehow is rational because they are free to make a decision. Surely you can appreciate why I can’t accept that as an argument for why that demonstrates it’s a suitable vehicle for that purpose.

    . . . very small niche of of tradesmen . . .How many niches does it take when, all together, they’re no longer niche cases?

    Most people would argue a majority. Even if we relax it to something more common like, at least a quarter of tradesmen in more than 2 developed countries, this example wouldn’t qualify as more than niche. I mean, the actual hard to swallow fact is tradesmen almost definitely wouldn’t prefer pickup trucks without the extreme tax advantages in the US/CAN biasing towards them, as is evidenced by countries where the government handouts aren’t so generous.


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    That truck pictured would be better served with a van. Ladders and conduit on the roof, tools in the back. This is standard setup in the UK, UAE and Australia at least, I imagine for everywhere outside of North America.

    Ah ok, I’ve only ever heard fifth wheeler be used to describe a camper. Hauling large trailers is something a pickup truck is better at than a van, but if that’s the type of work you do surely the obvious 5T flatbed is the better option, no? I appreciate that you’ll probably counter that the versatility for someone who only needs to do that occasionally and that is valid, but I hope you’ll appreciate that we’re now talking about a very small niche of of tradesmen in response to a comment I originally made making a generalization.


  • bigschnitz@lemmy.worldtoFuck Cars@lemmy.worldNo words
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    I felt it was obvious I was talking about tradesmen and workers doing work, with all the talk about toolboxes and having to walk into the tray (and given that what most truck owners like to pretend to be). For use as a work vehicle, doing work tasks for tradesmen, a van is far more practical.

    Are you implying that construction workers who move around a lot need a gigantic camper when they move between jobs? Because I realize that yanks do tend to do that, though I’d argue that this is more a reflection of yankee culture than applicability for actual work.


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    3 days ago

    they ride a bit lower while having a same or higher ceiling height

    This is the line that gives away why they’re unquestionably better if you actually need to use it for work.

    These jackasses with a tray 1.5m off the ground clearly aren’t regularly needing to get to their oversized toolbox at the back of the tray, because clambering in and out of that thing is an enormous pain in the ass.

    This gets brought up so much because it clearly differentiates the people doing work from the people playing dress up.