In a joint statement following talks, Xi Jinping and Putin stated that the war in Ukraine could only be resolved by removing its “root causes”.

Such formulation clearly echoes key Russian propaganda messages used by the Kremlin to justify the launch of the full-scale war, including the threat of NATO expansion, discrimination against Russian-speaking people and the suppression of the Russian language, culture and media in Ukraine.

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    Anyone here understands geopolitics and the cornering of Russia by NATO (read: the US plus European vassals) or are you just talking out of vibes? Anyone here remembers the 2011 US coup on Ukraine and what it led to? It’s a bit more complex than what the commenters here believe, lol.

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      Sure, sure, that’s why the US offered Zelenskyy a ride which he turned down - they wanted him to be their puppet in Ukraine.

      But you know, Yanukovich was a true representative of the Ukrainian people. That’s why he fucked off back to Moscow first chance he got just like Assad, who truly speaks for the Syrian people… from fucking Moscow.

      So I guess Viktor Yushchenko just ate bad arugula in 2004?

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      So what is the standard rusbot argument for Nato expanding through willing submissions from new countries where Russias policy with their neighbors is beating them into submission where possible?

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        Don’t forget, just like NATO, russia is also expanding with pen and paper through CSTO. Russia is doing both, expansion through CSTO and expansion of territories through bombs, guns, and tresspassing.

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        This has to be a joke, they couldn’t even get the year correctly and it’s been drilled into them. Right???

        edit: nvm, likely a puppet, checked the account

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          I got the year wrong BECAUSE it hasn’t been drilled into my head, lol. I just believe it’s more complex than simply “Russia bad”, especially in the face of NATO expansionism. I’m not emotionally attached though, which is why I can actually freely learn about it, unlike others who can’t conceive anything outside of “Russia bad, China bad, West good”…

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            It’s actually that simple. Why complicate things. If you bothered to look at Putin a history, you would know what he had been up to all this time.

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              Fair enough, my bad. And here I thought geopolitics were complex affairs, I should’ve just hated Eurasia and Oceania like daddy told me to.

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                The problem with people like you is that you don’t think, you repeat. You “think” you are the singular “enlightened” among a sea of propaganda-eating idiots, while saying the same shit Russia pushes to try to justify invading a sovereign country.