• geneva_convenience@lemmy.mlOP
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        24 days ago

        It’s strange how you’re trying to shove the blame on everything humans do onto God.

        Consider reading and responding to the link.

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          It is on God. All of the suffering in the world is because the first humans he created didn’t use their “free will” exactly how he wanted them to.

          That’s a pretty cunty thing to do.

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            24 days ago

            It’s almost like free will by definition means that God doesn’t control the actions. Did God bomb those Palestinian kids or are humans choosing to do so?

            Or are those humans forced to do so by deterministic nature, thus making their action morally neutral and not evil at all?

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              Can you prove free will exists? Also- if your god exists, and created those people that are killing innocents; yes. He is directly to blame.

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                Unless you believe that you hold no agency over the choices you make in life you believe in free will. You can observe yourself making choices.

                You have stated you believe in the existence of free will already by proclaiming the act of killing children to be wrong. Without free will it would simply be a predetermined event and good and evil would not exist.

                Taking it a step further, if it’s impossible for humans to receive free will because of determinism, then you must also say that God has no free will. Which then absolves God of anything you deem “evil”.

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                    23 days ago

                    You’re falling over yourself in fallacies and are so busy being a Reddit Atheist that you’re just throwing out adhominems instead of addressing the argument. Also you’re doing a lot of assumptions about me.

                    If your god has no free will, he isn’t a god

                    So if God can have free will… why can’t humans have free will?