• phutatorius@lemmy.zip
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    3 days ago

    In other words, Europe should surrender to the aggressor, despite the fact that he’s trapped in what’s (for him) at best a stalemate.

    Europe and the US already capitulated to the Anschluss of Crimea. How much peace did that buy us?

    • panthera_@lemmy.today
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      2 days ago

      Europe is not surrendering. In my proposal, Russia would be required to withdraw from all land it seized after the 2022 invasion.

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        2 days ago

        There is zero chance russia withdraws. The lines will end where one military begins.

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          2 days ago

          In my proposal, the UK and France will send troops into Ukraine if Putin rejects the proposal.

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            1 day ago

            First of all, the UK and France are both weak, and about to be toppled by putin (and now america,) backed fascists.

            Shit is not looking good.

            But they would be too much of cunts to do that anyway. This isn’t 1780, the euro powers are weak and corrupted.

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              16 hours ago

              The British and French air forces might be able to gain air superiority. British and French troops would boost Ukrainian morale possibly increasing enlistment. The UK and France are no weaker than Russia which is having a difficult time defeating Ukraine.

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                16 hours ago

                They have weaker leadership. Absolutely, Europe would wipe the floor with russia in a conventional war, they won’t though.

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                  4 hours ago

                  Well, under Putin’s strong leadership Russia is having a difficult time defeating Ukraine.