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      Not at all. There should be no collective punishment. There shouldn’t be any people getting innocent people getting hurt no matter how horrible the things they supported are. Should some people have to deal with the fucked up shit they did? Yes.

      Let’s see if Bibi and the genocide gang face any repercussions for what they did. Until then, fuck those Jews. Part of the problem as to why shit in society has gotten so bad is because a culture of lawlessness has been flourishing. Any society that reaches that point is sick. Sorry if your feelings are hurt, but all of this could have been stopped a long long looong time ago. You do realise that Israel is trying to start an enormous war and invade every neighbor they have right? You do realise that Israel has threatened the world with nuclear annihilation multiple times right? The last 30 years of international politics has been crime after crime after crime. Followed by poor decision making of world leaders everywhere. Nothing needed to get this bad. Humanity has collectively failed itself.

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      Also how the fuck do you know I’m Jewish or not? How the fuck do you know if I got Jews in my family or not? Gtfo, I’m sorry if you’re feelings are hurt and if you’re struggling to deal with the fucked up shit that’s going on. But so is everybody else.

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          You’re the one saying I’m using woke what ever that means to hide my racism. Sorry that I showed some consideration. /s

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              No just no you’re wrong you’re saying I’m wrong but saying I’m right but you don’t like the language fuck you. That’s you’re line of argument. I’m not a politician I should be aloud to express myself. The people who get offended by the truth said in the wrong way are fools. If you demand a polite form of what I wrote look for academic texts on the history of zionism. I agree not all jews are zionists and not all jews are culpable but woke is a culture war term. I invented it, it was used to market things it’s completely fabricated. It was designed to divide people and uphold certain class structures “those who say the right thing in the right way are okay those who say the right thing in the wrong way are bad” that’s not how the truth works. Being rude isn’t a crime and if you think it is go to bluesky I heard the rude are censored there. We are at a critical point in human history I Have No Mouth I Must Scream was not a fiction book.

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              It’s like saying “fuck white people” if 85% of them supported Apartheid South Africa and you going “actually that’s woke racist”.

              The difference between you and LemsGhost is the level of oppression you ascribe to Jews. The closer people are to the Palestinian cause the less they believe Jews are some kind of oppressed group. This is why you will find people from countries like Lebanon and Palestine never bothering to make any such difference. They see the overwhelming majority of Jews straight up supporting the genocide of their own people and the ones that “don’t” are often hurting their cause by tone-policing the movement.

              You really need to start seeing Jews similar to white people who are using their position of privilege to oppress others almost unanimously, not some massively oppressed minority that needs special treatment because they’re in imminent danger of a second Holocaust.

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                  Is it only their lived experience though? We’re talking about most Jews in the West (and Russia) as well, who are harassing the anti-genocide movement by maximally abusing their own identity to prevent people from opposing genocide and slandering everyone as antisemites even if they use every “correct” term.

                  We’re talking about Western Synagogues and Western Rabbi’s. We’re talking about the group called “Jewish Democrats” (who are Jews) harassing Abdul El Sayed and Hasan now as the umpteenth antisemitism campaign (all while platforming brazen blood libel against Muslims in their Jewish conferences)

                  Maybe this podcast can help https://youtu.be/jYqSzc2vCmw?t=398