• deczzz@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    8
    ·
    3 days ago

    I can agree with most of this but china aren’t know for being particularly interested in human rights and freedom of speech/press. And don’t whatabout me on the state of affairs in USA. USA and china both suck at human rights but I (I might be ignorant) think that the US in its totality still is better

    • lechekaflan@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      2 days ago

      the US in its totality still is better

      Partly because protests are still possible, big business is still accountable for everything they do, and politicians can still be taken down.

      Downvoters must be fucking defeatist doomers.

      • stumu415@lemmy.zip
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        edit-2
        3 days ago

        It might surprise you, but the one thing the CCP is afraid of, are the people. There are protests and demonstrations in China. And often they are successful in reversing a policy or getting a government official who thought of some crazy shit, fired.

        These things obviously do not get reported in the west. Only the bad things because that affirms the view of China.

        I personally witnessed the protests during the covid period in Shanghai. Not long after, all covid restrictions where lifted.

        • lechekaflan@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          edit-2
          2 days ago

          but the one thing the CCP is afraid of, are the people.

          There are two kinds of people in China: those who are literally marginalized, and those who are on the take within the government and love doing all that wolf-warrior garbage.

          So many fucking tanks here.

      • AlecSadler@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        3 days ago

        It kind of depends on who you are though, or where you are.

        I am not white and I do not have the same privileges as my white friends. If we protest, I tend to be targeted first. When shopping, I tend to be stopped by security for an additional check - they never do. When pulled over for speeding, I get asked additional questions that they rarely do.

        And I have it good because of where I live - some have it much, much worse.

        • lechekaflan@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          2 days ago

          I once used to dream of emigrating when I was young, and my relatives want me there because they think I’m smart and I could make lots of money, which is the point of going there. Now that I am old enough, I’d rather deal with my homeland problems at the level of acceptable comfort than trying to pay the price of being there.

          I’m in the Philippines, a country where we have a questionable relationship with China: they continue to question the 2016 arbitration ruling, and we are tied in a very uneven trade agreement where we have to import nearly everything from there while exporting raw goods to them but subject to their protectionist measures.