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    There are also competing digital market spaces. You can only buy through Sony on PlayStation.

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    Also, on pc, anyone who wants a physical media are free to create them as they please (assuming no drm or piracy, of course)

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    tbh the wonders of the Feral PC Army include several groups writing console emulators. I am successfully running: Wii, Wii U, Switch, OG Xbox and PS3 emulators as we speak. I understand Xbox 360 and PS4 are also out there, but I haven’t got 'round to them yet.

    Interestingly, a lot of media for these emulators is just kind of laying around on the internet for anybody to download.

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      360 might be the single most buggy emulator I play. Shit runs on thoughts and prayers

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        Oh damn they coded the random red ring of death into an emulator? That’s really cool. I wonder how they can emulate the euphoric and absolutely not infuriating experience of scratching a disc for no apparent reason.

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          It wasn’t for no reason, it was caused by having a disc in the drive while changing the consoles orientation. You had to remove discs from the drive before standing it up or laying it on its side due to the design of the tray, otherwise the disc would stick halfway between a slot on the side of the tray and get wrecked by the laser carriage.

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        We do have decomps in the pipes apparently for those exclusives that keep me hopeful. Fable 2 has one halfway running as of I think a few months ago.

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        Worse than OG Xbox emulation? Last time I checked, it was rough to say the least, with absurd hardware requirements.

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          Which IMO is very odd, considering the OG Xbox is quite literally just an x86 PC and at this point has been cracked wide open.

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            Common misconception. It’s not a PC. Many of the components are close to standard, but their implementation isn’t. Lots of proprietary shenanigans going on. It also lacks a typical BIOS, which alone makes it not an x86 PC.

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              I know, but it is based on standard PC components of the time, which made it ripe for mods, including installing Linux… Several friends of mine had the OG Xbox, and all were modded. One of my buddies still has his, I’m trying to convince him to resurrect it 😂

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          Honestly, yeah it is. OG Xbox emulator has gotten a lot better, but 360 still has the frame drop issues and a LOT of texture fixing problems. So you can spin the camera in just about any game and the textures are flying at you

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      It’s kinda funny to me because the OG Xbox is what I still use for emulation. Mine has a 2 TB HDD and runs XBMC (what eventually became Kodi). I love that thing and it is still my media server as well. Having to use FTP is a little annoying in the modern day, and it has gotten hard to find disc’s to burn to it, but it still runs like a champ.

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        Wow that’s impressive. The thing was built like a brick. I had one back in the day and had several games (all of which I downloaded and am running for the nostalgia hit).

        One game I found I never knew existed is Tron 2.0. I can’t believe I never even heard of this game, I would have been all about it. The nice thing about the emulator is it has an upscaler and games in HD are absolutely dynamite, especially Tron 2.0.

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          Tron 2.0 is the true sequel to Tron. All others are inferior.

          When I was in highschool I was a huge Tron nerd. I actually sanded down my laptops lid and etched TRON in big letters on it, painted it all up in black and blue. Wish I had a picture of it.

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          That term was solely coined by the Nazis. He is right in criticizing it. Using faschist terminology like this waters it down and helps fascist to claim their spaces in the middle of society all while normalizing their ideology.

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            If you are linking every word with Nazis then yes you need help.

            Nazis used racial superiority, i said it because PCs are better than consoles.

            I couldn’t give a shit about racial “superiority”, that’s little dick energy.

            Also if you want to face Nazis then please by all means go attack Musk, ICE agents, Netenyahu, Putin, Xi or any of the others that are committing crimes this very moment and show how brave you are then!

            If you think you are a big “Nazi fighter” because you called me out for saying PC master race you should then go Google a bit about real Nazi fighters, those people were real fighters even while being brutally tortured and murdered.

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            And you the pogroms of Stalin it seems.

            I know my morals and “PC master race” is not a nazi dogwhistle.

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              No, it isn’t a dog whistle. It’s clear-as-day use of hateful language.

              Pogroms are also bad, but that’s irrelevant to this conversation. We’re not talking about Pinochet or Pol Pot either. What you are doing is defending the term “PC master race”. Notice how nobody here is able to create a positive argument for why the casual use of such clearly hateful language is ok. Perhaps you should recognize that there isn’t one.

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    What a weird argument. People preserve all the digital games on consoles, too. The only somewhat fair argument would be that it’s slightly easier to preserve games on PC, but really both have their own challenges. On PC you’re fighting DRM, on consoles you’re fighting the OS security to break in.

    The only real excuse for digital only is DRM free, where you can backup your installers.

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    My console is offline 95% of the time, behind a slow connection 5% of the time. No physical media would mean not buying any new game. No new games means there’s no point in buying the latest console to play new games.

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    The problem isn’t a lack of feral reverse engineers and crackers. Console protections are like catnip to that crowd. The problem is the starting state is a lot worse.

    Windows PE files aren’t encrypted (Yes their content may be but the entry point and key loader would still need to be stored as cleartext) and can easily be copied and decompiled. The ability to run debuggers isn’t locked behind having an undisclosed zero day or unpatched device. Arbitrary code execution is available by default. And the APIs aren’t all NDAed

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    I dont even have a disk drive on my self build PC and my next Laptop won’t have either. I let other people built physical media storages. And some of em put them on torrent/Usenet/etc.

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    for everyone on everything

    Every Windows user on every x86-64 PC?

    Not post-Windows users using Linux or macOS, the latter of which are ARM64 machines.

    So, not everyone and not everything.

    Where’s the feral passion in getting off Microsoft’s tit?

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      Wine, Proton, rosetta 2…

      Mac and Linux have pretty decent Windows-only game availability.

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      Basically every windows games except for a few with kernel level anti-cheat that I wouldn’t install anyways runs fine on proton?

      Shit fex is making that work for ARM too…

      What fucking rock have you been living under?

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        I just looked to see if Proton was available on Mac yet. Search results imply “basically, no.” I found a 2023 article from Linus Tech Tips about GPTK (Game Porting Tool Kit) which is a terminal thing which uses some Crossover code. This isn’t new, but it’s not a user friendly solution.

        I get that on Reddit, a snarky remark would get you lots of upvotes, and you could later sell the account to advertisers and a lot of people did that, but on Lemmy, votes don’t really matter, I think it’s just for show. So yeah, cool, you got one over on me. Bully for you. Now do you have a link, or… are you just being funny?

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          Your original comment was about sucking Microsoft’s teat.

          What the fuck does proton on Mac have to do with that?

          Did you think the answer to dumping Microsoft was buying a Mac? Lmao.

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            You can move the goalposts with your words, but I can’t afford to follow with my wallet, and I don’t want to move backwards anyway.

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              JESSIE WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

              YOU MOVED THE GOALPOST BY TALKING ABOUT MAC, AFTER I TOLD YOU PROTON FIXES THE WINDOWS DEPENDENCY!?!?

              Where’s the feral passion in getting off Microsoft’s tit?

              - CerebralHawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com, 2026

              ^Those are your words, that’s the goalpost I was responding to. Its been stuck in concrete the entire time.

              How delusional are you, you think the answer to fixing this was moving from Steve Ballmers nipple over to Tim Cooks? Obviously the answer is a free, community made OS anyone can install.

              Not another fucking corporation.

              You can move the goalposts with your words, but I can’t afford to follow with my wallet, and I don’t want to move backwards anyway.

              What the fuck does your wallet have to do with this, Linux is free as in freedom and beer.

              Also the idea that moving from Mac to Linux is backwards just because your computer doesn’t handhold you is a joke. Convenience over function isn’t an upgrade, its a crutch.