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      Yeah, you heard them. Everything trump does is Bidens fault. Don’t blame the people that voted for him, or the entire party continuing to enable him and not holding him accountable. Obviously this is entirely on Biden.

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        That’s not what he said. The turnout for Biden was lesser because his “nothing will fundamentally change” message was for the donor class and the literal opposite of what people needed to hear. Then Kamala was finally “allowed” to take over the campaign and when asked she essentially said “everything Biden did was great, I wouldn’t and won’t do anything different.” which was also the literal opposite of what people needed to hear. It’s what the monied class needed to hear though, but although their money can break a candidate they can’t force people to vote or be excited so the turnout wasn’t enough to beat the trump cult of personality.

        Everything Trump did was Trump’s fault, but Bidens inaction and Kamalas intent to keep doing “nothing” doomed their campaign. Of course add to the mix “Israel is perfect and doesn’t ever do anything wrong, we’re never going to confront them” didn’t help either.

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          Except my entire point stands for trumps first term when he regularly broke the law and failed to be held accountable. Long before Biden was relevant again.

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            That’s fine, but that’s not what you said so that’s not what I was responding to. You were responding to a comment questioning what givesomefucks said. Now you’re saying it’s about Trump’s first term, but that’s not what the original comment was about.

            Edit: I think I was the one misreading the original comment

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        Democrats lay the foundations for the actions committed by Republicans, fascism didn’t happen in vacuum, it required the assistance if a perceived weak liberal party. Liberal voters refusing to hold their own people accountable led to where we are right now. You’ve told them they can do anything they want, including a genocide, and you will still come back for more. Your lesser evil, which doesn’t exist, allowed for a larger acceptable evil the next time, compounded over 50 years you’ve allowed the evil to grow so large someone like trump became possible.

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          ‘lesser evil, which doesn’t exist’ ‘larger […] evil’

          Compelling argument contradicting yourself in the same sentence.

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            It’s not a contradiction, you believe a lesser evil exists, your lesser evil grows at an ever expanding pace. At one time Democrats thought Dan Quayle misspelling potato was an outrage, now you turn a blind eye to genocide. See how that works, how it continually grows?

            Lesser evil does not exist, only evil.

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      trump likely wouldn’t have won 2028 from blue collar run of the mill prison

      Definitely wouldn’t have won from Gitmo