or because they recognized how lazy and dismissive your response was, and they don’t care to be patronized.

no, I didn’t

no one ever demanded you justify your decision to eat plants

It’s not an interesting debate.

so don’t engage, but don’t pretend you’ve rebutted anything.

you’re not engaging with the other person at all. you’re treating them like they are a child to be taught. you have no idea whether they’ve seen these arguments before. you just threw a link at them.

being vegan won’t change how much water is used by agriculture

I didn’t say anything about you rebutting your decisions. I’m talking about you’re response to someone’s own decisions.

this has to be the height of intellectual laziness and bad faith. you’re not actually engaging with the person who typed the comment at all.

“use” is a synonym of “exploit”

so, yes

putting a phrase on a vegan bingo card is insufficient to rebutt the argument.

the plant-based food industry may have grown, but so has the meat industry. it increases year over year, and whatever excuse you may have, being vegan hasn’t stopped that.

if being vegan made a difference this might be true.

no. veganism eschews exploitation of animals for food

i present the math below

yes, I have considered that. and every source I can find puts dairy cows at about 3 years of production, calving for the first time at about 2 years old.

it’s possible your operation was not average, and most dairy cows only live 5 years.

anecdotes are not data.

https://albertamilk.com/ask-dairy-farmer/how-long-does-the-average-dairy-cow-live/

cows don’t naturally live to 20 years. they can live that long if they are well fed and watered and protected from disease, predators, and the environment. that’s an artificial life span.

hardly any dairy calves end up as veal.

thousands_of_head_of_cows = 9448.0
actual_cows = 1000 * thousands_of_head_of_cows
annual_male_calves = .5 * actual_cows
veal_weight_of_calves_in_pounds = 260
annual_veal_production_in_millions_of_pounds = 58
annual_percentage_of_bobby_calves_that_become_veal = ((annual_veal_production_in_millions_of_pounds * 1000000) /  (veal_weight_of_calves_in_pounds * annual_male_calves))*100
print(annual_percentage_of_bobby_calves_that_become_veal)

a dairy cows life span is like 5 years