PostmarketOS is not quite there yet to be daily driveable imo, I’m tinkering with it on a Oneplus 6T. But some enthusiasts do daily drive it - and it’s getting better and better!

P2P + IoT could be great for safety and privacy. We should just remove the middle men (datacentres, servers) so that data travels between the devices you own, and not via some data vampire trying to get in the way.

Just try and see for yourself. Like I said, only tried Keet. Features

• Share files as big as you like, 2m, 2g, 2t, doesn’t matter
• Windows, linux, ios, android
• Groups, dm’s, broadcast feed
• No phone number or email needed, add by alias/link/qr
• Unlimited call quality since theres no server in between or throttling
• Share emojis, gifs, videos (no stickers or self-destruct atm)

I’ve been using Keet for a couple of months now, really like it. Still in beta, but you can ask questions to the devs in the open chat rooms and they actually give you sound answers

Also there’s Jami which looks good, but haven’t tested it

Depends what you use it for

Update: I just came across Jami, which actually seems to check all the boxes! Libre, open source, videocalls/conferences, unrestricted traffic/quality, secure, p2p, available on all major platforms, etc etc. Even additional functionality such as recording.

Time to do some testing! Also, thanks for all the info in previous post

Many people immediately lose interest the second they see the word “crypto”.

Sure, I’ve never bought any crypto and don’t plan on doing it either.

But can some of you please get more specific about the reasons why, though? Is absolutely everything about it bad across the whole board, or are some currencies or subgroups worse than others? After all, there are many different implementations, and some are more energy demanding than others.

I ask because I’m genuinely curious and don’t know much about it.

I want to communicate with others in a way that is privacy friendly, gives a good user experience and gives me control of my data. Tox seems good, but most of my friends and family have iphones, and none of the clients support that. Today they use Whatsapp, Messenger, etc. Signal would be a big improvement, but as far as I can tell it is still centralized and wants your phone number.

Maybe XMPP can work, I will check that out.

P2P caught my interest because of the possibilities that opens up when you remove the middle-man/server (even better call quality, no file size limits). But it doesn’t have to be P2P - I’m just a fan of “local first”, decentralization and democratization of technology in general.

I already listed my reasons for wanting to try out/use it, and they have nothing to do with crypto or micropayments.

If you can name alternatives with similar functionality made by people who are not affiliated with crypto, I’m all ears. Briar seems great for journalists and activists etc, but it is too limited to be used as a mainstream messenger for keeping in touch with friends and family. Seems like all you can do is send text and emojis, no video chat or photos.

Another interesting option https://holesail.io/

Seems like they’ve got that covered

I’m no crypto fan or plan on using micropayments either, but if I don’t use it, where’s the harm?

So far battery and data usage is ok, but we’ll see after some more testing

I’m testing syncing, notification and battery usage now on a few devices to see how it behaves. So far, so good. It also lets you specify which type of user you are inviting, so that admins does the heavy lifting

My bad, on the Pears homepage it says “Join the open-source P2P revolution”, so I assumed that was the case.

Someone asked the same question in the community group chat. Seems like the UI for Keet is closed atm, the rest is open.