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Have you ever considered that the Prime Directive is not only not ethical, but also illogical, and perhaps morally indefensible?
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Value Subtracted@startrek.websiteOPMto Star Trek Social Club@startrek.website•Podcast Discussion | Star Trek: Khan | 1x02 "Scheherazade"English2·2 days agoSee, I meant what I said last week about being bad at listening to podcasts!
Value Subtracted@startrek.websiteOPMto Star Trek Social Club@startrek.website•Podcast Discussion | Star Trek: Khan | 1x02 "Scheherazade"English3·3 days agoThat’s an interesting question. Kirk seemed pretty determined to let Khan and his people have a real chance on Ceti Alpha V, so it makes sense that he’d allow them some tools, and even weapons.
But this episode also makes a bit of a big deal out of Khan’s reaction to Starfleet technology that’s much more advanced that what he’s used to. Some kind of throwback/antique weapon would make sense.
Value Subtracted@startrek.websiteOPMto Star Trek Social Club@startrek.website•Podcast Discussion | Star Trek: Khan | 1x02 "Scheherazade"English3·3 days agoI thought this was a decent one. They continue to walk the line of adding depth to Khan without necessarily casting him in a positive light.
I’m a little surprised they dropped the Sulu/Tuvok framing device, but I didn’t really miss it.
RIP Joaquin, I guess the guy in TWOK is your kid.
Value Subtracted@startrek.websiteMto Star Trek Social Club@startrek.website•Instance Maintenance ?English7·3 days agoYou’re not alone - we’re looking into it!
Value Subtracted@startrek.websiteOPMto Star Trek Social Club@startrek.website•Episode Discussion | Star Trek: Strange New Worlds | 3x10 "New Life and New Civilizations"English4·3 days agothe fanatasy/hallucination wss made by Batel
Yeah, I think you’re right - that’s the only anwer that makes any kind of sense. I was just thrown by the fact that Real Batel showed absolutely no awareness of, or interest in, what had happened when Pike snapped out of it. At least, that’s what I remember - I haven’t gone back to double-check.
Value Subtracted@startrek.websiteOPMto Star Trek Social Club@startrek.website•Episode Discussion | Star Trek: Strange New Worlds | 3x10 "New Life and New Civilizations"English14·7 days agoI think Discovery handled Pike’s “destiny” in the best possible way by rooting it in character.
Pike grabs that time crystal because he’s dedicated to the mission, and to Starfleet. He will eventually save those cadets for the exact same reason. There doesn’t have to be anything metaphysical going on there - he affirms that that’s the kind of person he is, and that’s why he’ll end up in that situation one day, even knowing it’s coming.
It makes me sad that SNW has been diluting that.
Value Subtracted@startrek.websiteOPMto Star Trek Social Club@startrek.website•Episode Discussion | Star Trek: Strange New Worlds | 3x10 "New Life and New Civilizations"English9·7 days agoOr is it only a combo thing?
That seemed to be the implication. In which case, I think it might have been better to have Batel get more fully “possessed,” and take the angle that she knows exactly what’s going on, and what needs to be done. It would take her agency out of the episode, but…the episode didn’t really give her any agency as it is.
Value Subtracted@startrek.websiteOPMto Star Trek Social Club@startrek.website•Episode Discussion | Star Trek: Strange New Worlds | 3x10 "New Life and New Civilizations"English17·7 days agoI wanted to sleep on this one too see if there would be anything I would appreciate after some reflection, but…no, not really.
I thought that the way they came to understanding what was going on was a little rushed and a bit too speculative
I think this is a big part of what didn’t work for me. They really wanted to get to the fireworks factory, and sidestepped most of the interesting potential in order to get there.
The extended fantasy/hallucination was the strongest part of the episode, but…it seemed to be entirely about Pike. Did Batel even experience it? The episode seemed completely uninterested in what she might be going through as she prepared to sacrifice herself.
And the conflict itself suffers from the “pah wraith problem” - I’m fine with the idea of a conflict between primordial good and evil…but it’s hard to make it interesting. All you can really do is focus on how it affects the people involved, and they were only semi-successful at that.
Value Subtracted@startrek.websiteOPMto Star Trek Social Club@startrek.website•Star Trek Boldly Goes into its 60th Year with Fan-Centric Anniversary Celebrations Throughout 2026English2·8 days agoI wouldn’t give the new company too much credit - most, if not all, of this stuff must have been in the works for quite some time.
But let’s hope things continue to trend upward under the new regime…
Value Subtracted@startrek.websiteMto Star Trek Social Club@startrek.website•Star Trek Picard Episode 3 Season 2 2022 reviewEnglish12·8 days agoIt’s almost as if they had something very specific they were trying to convey with the “we have to go back in time to prevent this fascist future, oops it’s just the world our viewers live in” plot.
Value Subtracted@startrek.websiteOPMto Star Trek Social Club@startrek.website•'Star Trek: Strange New Worlds' & 'Doctor Who' Crossover? Watch Finale Sneak PeekEnglish4·8 days agoI agree that this season has done more “genre play” than I’m happy with, but I don’t have the impression that this will be a silly episode - it just has a silly gag.
Value Subtracted@startrek.websiteOPMto Star Trek Social Club@startrek.website•Podcast Discussion | Star Trek: Khan | 1x01 "Paradise"English5·9 days agoI did not know this, but apparently Earl Boen passed away in 2023, which would make casting…difficult.
I’ve liked Naveen Andrews ever since he was an underutilized breakout star on “Lost”, and he has the advantage of actually being of Indian descent. I’ll be very curious to see how much range he gets to show as this series winds on.
Value Subtracted@startrek.websiteOPMto Star Trek Social Club@startrek.website•Podcast Discussion | Star Trek: Khan | 1x01 "Paradise"English5·9 days agoThis episode confirmed my biggest fear: I’m bad at focusing on audio stories, and will have to choose when to listen carefully.
As far as the story goes, I’m happiest to see that they’re doing some character rehab for Marla McGivers.
They don’t seem to be doing similar rehab for Khan himself, which is fine by me, but they are highlighting his ability to turn on a dime and go full tyrant at the drop of a hat.
Value Subtracted@startrek.websiteOPMto Star Trek Social Club@startrek.website•Star Trek: Khan is now availableEnglish2·9 days agoOkay, I’m convinced - thread is up.
Value Subtracted@startrek.websiteOPMto Star Trek Social Club@startrek.website•Star Trek: Scouts ☄️🖖🪐 | Official Trailer | Nick Jr.English9·10 days agoexcuse me reddit is that way
Value Subtracted@startrek.websiteMto Star Trek Social Club@startrek.website•Were is the rest of the Star Trek movies in Paramount+?English5·10 days agoI’ve never seen any indication that taxes had anything to do with it. I think they just gave the exclusive license to Netflix (which has since expired, at least for season one).
Value Subtracted@startrek.websiteOPMto Star Trek Social Club@startrek.website•Star Trek: Khan is now availableEnglish3·10 days agoI’m open to it, if there’s enough interest.
Speak now, people!
Value Subtracted@startrek.websiteMto Star Trek Social Club@startrek.website•Were is the rest of the Star Trek movies in Paramount+?English14·10 days agoParamount tends to give other platforms temporary exclusive licenses to the films.
It’s not perfect, but I find justwatch.com useful when trying to figure out where things are available in my country.
She sort of sidestepped the question in the interview…my answer would be “no, but who cares if the story’s any good?”
Interestingly, I see someone at Memory Alpha has been incorporating stuff from the first two episodes into related pages…we’ll see if that sticks.