It gets my goat that people think it’s a good option. There are plenty of articles explaining some of the many issues with it, but a few are:
- It’s run by anti-LGBTQ+ crypto bros.
- It has ads right out of the box.
- It collected donations towards people who never signed up for them - then held them to ransom in exchange for the kind of information you should never share on the Internet.
- They’re a for-profit advertising company. “Privacy-centric” my elbow.
It’s a for profit ad company making a “privacy first browser”.
Thinking for literaly a second about that sentence should tell you all you need to know.
I did not know Brendan Eich was ousted from Mozilla and launched Brave because he was a homophobe who funded anti-LGBT+ campaigns 😬
He also created JavaScript, but I don’t see people getting upset and telling others to not use JavaScript.
It’s because no-one knows any alternatives.
If one wants a Chrome-based browser that isn’t Chrome, Brave is the highest-profile one by orders of magnitude. Next is a bunch of high-SEO scamware before honest projects like Vivaldi or Helium are even a whisper.
…So I don’t really blame folks for using Brave. They aren’t omniscient, and an honest effort to avoid Chrome is still a positive.
Helium browser.
I’m still mystified as to how Brave took any market share. I thought there’s two camps: people who care about browser privacy and people who don’t. The latter crowd stay with Chrome or whatever their PC comes with. The former crowd…did I miss a memo on what was wrong with Firefox?
Because they pumped out ads for it and paid astroturfers to promote it like crazy. It’s not really that surprising. There are laws against deceptive advertising but they rarely get enforced, and when they do, it’s usually a slap on the wrist. Which is how Brave can lie about browser privacy, get popular, and never get called out for lying in any meaningful way.
With Firefox, presumably compatibility, AI stuff, and a string of lesser Mozilla controversies, I guess?
As for Brave, I think you’re underestimating people. They don’t want to be tracked, they don’t want to see ads. They won’t necessarily go seek a solution out, but if a one-click solution to fix that presents itself in front of their eyeballs, they might try it.
I don’t blame folks for using it.
I do blame folks for not reading up before recommending it.
I recommend(ed) it so people have a mobile browser with functional adblock. I don’t need to research further to know it does that well, which frankly is all most people will care about.
Congratulations for helping fund bigotry.
Plonk.
Do you pay taxes?
If so, good job funding genocide plonk.
…if not, carry on
Ah yes, my massive endowment of $0 towards the Brave LGBT Hate Fund
don’t worry you just need to use it and it will generate money for them, keep the good (bad) work
Deep breaths stranger, I promise I’ll check out IronFox so Brave doesn’t get my $0.20 per year to destroy our rights
- it’s fucking Chromium
Go use some Firefox-derivative like Librewolf or Fennec, like a sane person.
Yeah, this is important. Fuck Google. I will only ever use a chromium browser if I have to for work or for a misbehaving website.
I will reject the misbehaving website rather than resort to using Chromium.
Occasionally though, life requires using a shit website. I do avoid it if possible though
Your attitude is very reasonable. I strive to be as unreasonable as I can.
reference
“The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw
They also tried to get away with URL injection. Do not use Brave.
It’s also a chromium browser.
If you had to pick a chromium variant, which is the least horrible?
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I had no idea about any of this. Have been using brave on android for a few weeks and very happy with it. What would you recommend instead?
I really like vivaldi
I’ve been using Iceraven with uBlock and it’s been pretty great so far. I use Obtainium to keep it updated directly from the repo.
Firefox Focus, Ironfox, or others recommended here. I will note that Waterfox was always quite slow on an android device of mine.
Honesty your arguments against Brave are pretty weak
Brave > Chrome
Brave isn’t great for those who want a lot of private and control. However, it is way better for people to choose Brave over Chrome or Edge.
Sure it’s better, if you want to directly fund anti-LGBTQ+ crypto bros.
May as well give money to the fucking Salvation Army.
It’s free and open source, you don’t have to fund anything. Just don’t enable adds/rewards and don’t pay for their VPN, AI, talk.
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Thank you for your well-reasoned argument, I’m totally convinced!
Just mentioned how I didn’t like people recommending this like last week and got “ok” as a response lol. Some people are just ignorant and don’t care.
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