Video footage of a young girl trying to flee an inferno caused by a Monday Israeli airstrike that killed dozens of Palestinians including her mother and siblings sparked global outrage and calls for an immediate cease-fire in what one former Israeli prime minister called a “war of extermination.”
How can anyone watch this and not want to drag the people responsible into the street? The repeated bombing of safe zones, over and over and over, is maddeningly inhumane.
A couple of mods here seem to downvote every post that draws attention to this sort of atrocity. One of them is even on YPTB defending banning people for criticizing those who approve of war crimes.
Wow, I didnt know admiral patrick is a zionist. Might just be an accident tho.
Edit: Not an accident, there is a pattern. He even downvoted the same thread about the airstrike on three different subs in the space of a minute.
When I had an account in lemmy.world my registration e-mail was leaked to Israel and I started receveiving invitations in my native language from a Tel-Aviv based organisation to attend an online “Learn about Israel” course.
Getting my registration information including e-mail requires the level of access of an admin of the instance rather than merelly that of a mod.
It makes sense that as maybe the largest Lemmy instance in terms of number of users lemmy.world is targeted by the propaganda ops of the biggest players and since Israel spends a ton of money in propaganda plus Lemmy being a left-leaning community tends to side with the oppressed (so, Palestine), it’s absolutelly logic that Israel has at least one full time sock-puppet here.
I believe in the old reddit century club notion of “courtesy voting”. If it’s interesting enough for me to comment, everyone gets an upvote. :)
I upvote comments even if I don’t quote agree but I feel it advances the conversation
I try not to downvote just based on disagreements, but based on degrees of bad faith, at least on politics. My upvotes are definitely progressive and anti-genocide. With this topic I think it’s fair to say that every comment defending genocide is inherently bad faith.
I wouldn’t personally care too much how mods vote, so long as they’re not botting. It is far more concerning to see reported instances of violent rhetoric being ignored on an instances and that may warrant clear cases being reported to the instance mods.
It could be beneficial to the world news portion to adopt a similar recommendation in their rules to politics, which is recommending that they vote more similarly to Jordan, EG not downvoting people who make real arguments to support their points. The point of these discussions should be dialog between competing viewpoints and it gets hard to do if they’re downvoted into oblivion for not knowing something you do or vice versa. It would then also be much harder for mods to justify their votes on validly sourced genocide coverage. Just my 2c
I honestly think that the primary reason more Western Governments refrained from speaking out against Israel isn’t tacit support, but rather fear.
Israel is a nuclear armed nation with a notoriously efficient spy network (Mossad), finances, and next to no scruples.
I legitimately wouldn’t put it past them hold blackmail material against a large number of world leaders, or at the very least have credible plans to stage a false-flag dirty bomb explosion anywhere they see fit.
It’s the only cope I have as to why so much of the world remains paralysed while the Palestinian people of Gaza are systematically eradicated.
Israel is of strategic importance to project US power in the middle east to secure oil.
That’s also the reason they were allowed to continue with their nuclear program.
It’s not fear, it’s power politics. Western powers actively support them. They are not uniquely evil, they are just what happens when fascism is sponsored and allowed to run unchecked.
This is Joe Biden making it perfectly clear: https://youtu.be/A-Ky3dPEnOE
Again this. There are other lands that could have worked just as good for US interests on the area.
Well sure, psychos with nukes are scary and there may be an element of the US losing control of their attack dog, but the idea that the Israelis are calling the shots is not really accurate. It cuts dangerously close to the antisemitic conspiracy theory that Israel through AIPAC controls the US government, which also conveniently lets the US off the hook for sponsoring them.
I just think it’s important to remember that for all their brutality, Israel is not charge, and they are not the military superpower that has dominated much of global politics for the past century. They are a vassal state and they would listen if anyone in power had the will to tell them no, they are far too dependent on US support.
Isn’t Israel already threatened nuclear Armageddon when Nixon dragged his foot on sending aid during the Yom Kippur war? IIRC around a dozen warheads are being primed for launch when the US aid confirmation came.
That definitely may have been the case post-‘70s oil crisis, but it does feel as though the current Bibi administration has gone feral.
The US is not going to ever admit that it has lost control of the leash, as doing so would probably hurt them more than tacitly endorsing the genocide - but I still would argue that fear is one of the primary driving factors.
but it does feel as though the current Bibi administration has gone feral.
They know that their time is running out. Younger generations of Americans are not pro-Israel, so political support will be drying up in the coming decades. And then there’s the even bigger issue of climate change, which is coming for all of us but is going to hit certain areas sooner than others.
It’s probably more like institutional inertia. It takes a long time to stop a ship that big.
A better explanation is that no one at the top cares. Their plight had been ignored for decades
I had to check the fucking date of the attack in the article to see if this was an old article being reposted or a new event.
Spoilers: it’s a new event
Stories like this are why I laugh a little inside whenever someone tries to tell me there’s a good and just god somewhere out there.
The “good and just God” is just going to make it up to all these people in the infinite afterlife, and inflict eternal suffering on the perpetrators!
/s but some people genuinely believe this
Actually, many evangelicals believe this is part of God’s plan.
The Holocaust was enough for me. I don’t know how humanity can keep faith after ww2.
Yeah, any vestiges of faith I had didn’t survive my reading of Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee and People’s History of the United States.
If there is a god out there, they’re like that kid from Toy Story that likes to break his toys and burn them with a magnifying glass.
Original testament God was a vengeful, narcissistic fuck. So all of this kind of fits.
And Christian God excuse is that this is all just part his plan and that he is testing faith.
It’s all fucking stupid.
Can I have the “religion bad” self insert comment next?
I wanna be in the middle of the circlejerk
The block button is right there, friend. Have a wonderful Tuesday.
People just need to believe, apparently.
Damn. Western tax dollars at work, rather than building/maintenance of infrastructure, proper health care, proper education, because those things are socialism. Isn’t Israel socialist, for the select?
How dare people in Gaza try to exist.
