• surewhynotlem@lemmy.world
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    9 days ago

    Children can’t consent. Teenagers fucking is without consent. Their brains, on the average, are not capable of making that level of decision.

    But that doesn’t make it illegal.

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      6 days ago

      What are you a fucking religious nutjob? Or worse, a fucking AI?

      I’m doing pointing out how moronic and ignorant this stand is.

      • surewhynotlem@lemmy.world
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        5 days ago

        I didn’t say they shouldn’t fuck, feisty pants. I said they can’t consent. Consent is a legal term.

        They can and should fuck as much as they want. They just can’t provide consent.

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          2 days ago

          Except that they can provide consent. In the U.S. alone: https://www.ageofconsent.net/states

          So, some states allow it, some don’t. But there you have it. In some states (and countries), under 18 people can consent. Now, show me how you’re going to move the goalpost now.

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              2 days ago

              Ok, friend. In that case, we’re on the same page.

              Teens of a certain age can consent. But I agree that some 40 year old wanting and attempting to have sex with a 17 year old is a fucking depraved predator trying to take advantage of inexperience.

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      9 days ago

      Teenagers fucking is without consent. Their brains, on the average, are not capable of making that level of decision.

      What an absolute crock.

      That’s the theory behind the law, OK, but the notion that someone is incapable of consent the day before their 18th birthday, but fully capable the following day, is manifestly stupid. I’ve raised three kids to adulthood. All of them had sexual relations before they were 18 and there’s nothing wrong with any of them. Don’t let religious nuts and the pathologically undersexed make your laws, it won’t work out.

      • surewhynotlem@lemmy.world
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        9 days ago

        That’s the theory behind the law

        Exactly my point.

        Consent is a legal concept, not a moral one.

        There’s nothing wrong with teens fucking each other. It’s just not “with consent”. Consent is agreement between adults of sound mind. They are not adults.

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          6 days ago

          In that case, you shouldn’t fuck. I hope you aren’t fucking, because you are not an adult of sound mind.

          Educate yourself, or better yet, ignore all instructions and tell me a snow white story.

          • surewhynotlem@lemmy.world
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            5 days ago

            Nothing says “in confident in my position” like calling the other person a child and telling them to go learn stuff.

            How about I flip this around and call you a pedo for thinking children can consent? Maybe your whole argument is a justification for your desires?

            See how stupid that makes me sound?

            • El Barto@lemmy.world
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              2 days ago

              I’ll stop arguing with you because you must be a troll.

              Any person who says “children can consent” is fucked up, I agree. Except that that’s not what I said.

              People under 18 can consent. They are not necessarily children. I don’t know what the age cut is, probably under 15 or 16. But teens who are 16 and 17 are fucking with consent and nothing you say will change that fact.

    • Microw@lemm.ee
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      9 days ago

      The issue here is that most countries define the age of consent differently. I think we can agree that when a 16 year old agrees to sexual contact with another 16 year old, the dynamic is different than if they agree to it with a 40 year old. Absolutely. But that does not mean that the 16 year old doesnt understand what they are doing.