• darkernations@lemmygrad.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    13
    ·
    edit-2
    1 month ago

    Will likely just be replaced by a smarter/more ruthless fascist/liberal. This is not a lesser evil argument, just reflecting the direction of change.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.mlOP
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      16
      ·
      1 month ago

      Almost certainly, but what I think the whole Epstein affaird did was expose just how untouchable the elite are. Everyone can see now that these people are monsters, and that they cannot be held accountable. And the whole notion that the west is some sort of a democracy is now becoming impossible to believe in for anybody with even a modicum of intellectual integrity.

      • darkernations@lemmygrad.ml
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        10
        ·
        edit-2
        1 month ago

        ^Very much this.

        Like any accusation of atrocity propaganda against anti-imperialist states, villifying of immigrants, or accusations of lack of democracy, we now have an easy new Western Magnum Opus to point to; it won’t convince anyone still benefiting from present material conditions but it may help any nasecent leftist organisations/proto-organisations in the west to help sharpen their political theory of attack ie who not to waste their time “persuading”.

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.mlOP
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          10
          ·
          1 month ago

          exactly, the dynamic is that as the system continues to break down, more and more people are falling out of the liberal mainstream, and these sort of things help illustrate how the whole system works for them

          • darkernations@lemmygrad.ml
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            9
            ·
            edit-2
            1 month ago

            For anyone who has read down this far, book recommendation: Thinking in Systems by Meadows (recommended initially by OP :) )