cross-posted from: https://discuss.online/post/34255100
Thought I’d create a distinct thread from the previous one asking about daily use, because I really do want to hear more on people’s pain points. Great to know people are generally sounding pretty positive in those posts who recently switched, but want to know your difficulties as well! This way old and new users can share their thoughts, hopefully to inspire a respectful discussion.
I couldnt even get it to work on chrome ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I miss start menu ads, intrusive bing searches, copilot upselling, MSN news, and uninstallable things I’ll never use on my PC like Xbox.
Jarvis, I’m low on karma. Make a quirky comment about windows 11.
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it works!!!
Leaving Standby. Can’t count the times I’ve opened my laptop to just see a black screen. Hard reset was the only option
I’m going to be honest, as a long time Linux user I also think this is one of those issues that is more common than it should be. It’s incredibly annoying and really pushes you away from using it as your daily driver.
Btw, check your last boot’s log with
sudo journalctl -e -b -1to see what its dying words were. If you’re lucky it’s dying when coming back up and spitting the related errors in red, but sometimes it will just be “Reached target sleep” in which case it’s a bit of a bitch to troubleshoot. You can look through the logs to see if any error might be related, but if you’re not well versed in Linux it might as well be an alien language. Common suspects: Nvidia, Bluetooth, encrypted swap or RAM, ACPI bugs, BIOS needs an update.I had the same issue on my Thinkpad p14s 5th gen. UEFI upgrade fixed it for me.
Black screen or a frozen, jumbled screen.
A recent update added 104ms to my boot time and I am SEETHING and will get to the bottom of this and make those responsible pay dearly.
I’m running endevourOS with KDM and there are some major issues with bluetooth…I can’t get some devices to connect (e.g my keychrone Keyboard, and Cricut plotter)
I still have to disable my wireless mouse, when I hibernate, because I couldn’t be bothered to adapt the udev rules to disallow the mouse to trigger the pc to start
And finaly, I just got back into X4 Foundation and my HOTAS setup depends on which device is recognized first…either its correct, or the controls are swapped (stuff that should be on the joystick is on the thrustmaster and vice versa)…un- and replugging in the correct order fixes this, but one wod think that it would lock the controls to a fixed device identifier
Been using it for a couple years, my main ones currently are:
- VR. SteamVR is a broken mess, Monado is pretty much functional, but I haven’t switched yet. Mesa or the kernel sometimes forget about VR and break it in an update.
- QT5 to QT6 transition for my favorite Matrix client, Nheko. Scrolling is a pain, and the clipboard randomly stops working.
- Wayland freedom and featureset is nowhere close to X11. I can’t choose a window manager without locking myself in to a specific featureset on my display server. Stuff like global hotkeys isn’t supported in most applications. I’m still on the godawful GNOME desktop portals, which is most annoying for file picking. I have no HDR support because my window manager isn’t from KDE or GNOME.
- GTK4 apps looking like shit (there are patches luckily), I try to avoid them just because of
libadwaitaand GNOME’s awful design.
On the note of Wayland, I have switched, and for good reason. Besides unimplemented features, things “just work” a lot better than X11. Still wish I could have effectively bspwm window management with kwin featureset though. (Plugins for tiling are not the same experience)
GTK4 apps and libadwaita apps are different though. You can theme both as well.
Regarding Wayland, I wonder why features still vary so wildly, even with projects like wlroots. Do WMs just not care enough?
Scrolling in Qt apps in general isn’t great. Still no inertial scrolling for example.
I actually haven’t had much problems with VR. Gussings thing will improve with the steam box
It depends heavily on headset. From what I hear, standalones with WiVRN or Steam Link work fine ootb, not much different than desktop gaming with Proton. I have a Valve Index, a PCVR headset. Getting it to run (properly) is a pain. Monado is making it easier, but it’s not 1 to 1 the same experience as on Windows.
I use a valve index too, only problem I’ve had that I can link to Linux is loud static sometimes that plays over game audio. Relaunching steamvr a few times seems to fix it. I think adding a dummy audio output also helped, but I made that a hot minute ago.
I can’t get past the train in alyx after getting the gun, I crash on the loading screen. I tried both bazzite and cachOS with the same result. Getting it to even run is always a hassle too and feels like it comes down to luck if it runs or not. Multiple components seem to fail at random either it doesn’t launch or the headset stays black, or I can’t get the game to run and stay in the cloudy sky or the room scale messes up and I’m half stuck in the floor. The whole experience is awful even though I really want to enjoy VR. I got myself a really beefy pc with a 9800x3d and a 7900xtx so I hoped not having to struggle with nvidia drivers would make things easier but I’m at a loss what to even try anymore or if its worth it.
This website has some good resources for Linux VR and links some support channels: https://lvra.gitlab.io/
My experience has been very slightly better (Quest 3 + Wifi 7 AP) on CachyOS compared to Win11. I was using Virtual desktop streamer (paid $25 for it) and now on Cachy using ALVR (free).
Framerates are more stable, very slightly lower averages in a few games, but the 0.1% lows that make me nauseous are now gone on Linux!
Regarding HDR yeah, I wish it had more widespread support and not get stuck on 1 window manager. But on KDE at least the SDR->HDR color mapping looks better than the Win11 auto HDR.
Needs more work for sure, some X.org applications really look terrible out of the box lol, but overall it feels good to be on an OS that gets improvements with time instead of downgrades.
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A udev rule that won’t work in my new distro (cachyos) for no apparent reason when it worked fine everywhere else
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Obs using way too much cpu for no reason even in a clean setup at idle
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Having to select what window will be captured to the obs canvas every time
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Having to swap active audio outputs until volume stops being too low at every restart.
That’s about all of it, I think.
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Linux is better for audio production than it’s ever been. That said, the plug-in support is still severely lacking. Even the VST bridges are hit or miss because a lot of plugins install via .exe installers which may or may not run well via wine. Getting a raw .vst file is actually pretty rare. And that’s for free plugins that don’t require DRM. Most professional quality plugins are more complex.
Have you tried LSP? I’m super impressed by it and it can be a drop in replacement for many pro-grade technical plugins. That and reapak have pretty much replaced everything for me.
LSP seems neat from what I’ve used. I think Reaper’s stock plugins are higher quality compared to the stock plugins in most other daws as well. I’m specifically in the market for modern metal drum sampler and amp sim plugins. The open source stuff is great compared to what it used to be. Just nowhere near what I can get pretty easily on Mac or Windows. It’s the finally itch I need scratched to really whole heartedly use Linux full time
Just last night I was playing around with the Tukan plugin collection and they are mental. Lots of very good sounding clones and models. I haven’t checked the drum stuff, but I did play around with the bass and guitar stations and managed to dial in some serious high-gain wall of sound type tones very easily.
Another way of getting good tones is simply obtaining high quality IR-s and just loading them in a suitable plugin. If you have a reamp box and access to some nice amps you can even create your own.
You could also do something similar for the drums. Just get some nice samples, load them into any old sequencer and you got yourself a drummer who’s never late or drunk. Then again, you lose the out of the box experience, but you only have to do it once.
I regret not switching my audio workflow to linux much earlier. A few years ago I got rid of everything Microsoft and started working with Reaper stock plugins exclusively. Not as pretty, but basically anything can be done with some fiddling. Only now I’m exploring the JSFX and LSP options and I’m hard pressed to find anything that I miss from the days of expensive plugins. Made me a better engineer as well. Less distractions, more listening and measuring.
I have been using pirated versions of plugins I own (iLok is a blight), but I understand how that wouldn’t be feasible in a lot of cases.
It is probably because I am a moron and just took a long time to figure it out, but its always harder to set up network shares with my linux desktop than any other machine in my house. At this point I know how to do it pretty well, but its a LOT more involved because none of the GUI tools seem to really work right.
Like I will share a folder from my server (also running linux BTW) and its instantly viewable on my windows laptop and even my streaming devices, but to discover it on my other linux machine is always a chore that involves editing a few config files and just kinda randomly poking around until it works.
but to discover it on my other linux machine is always a chore that involves editing a few config files and just kinda randomly poking around until it works.
What’s your desktop environment? On KDE you can just enter
smb://serverhost/pathin the Dolphin navigation bar and it will open it.Haha, you can! But other programs which don’t have built in network share support can’t use those. Also a bit annoyed by this, but it’s an easy fix.
Yes, that’s still a bit annoying unfortunately.
Editing the fstab to properly mount a network share also currently has no UI available in KDE and has to be done manually.
The Dolphin file browser picked mine up pretty quick. In the left folder tab I think I just had to click on the Network folder and then my shares were there, and I could right click and pin them to the sidebar
Minor issue is the vulken shaders that load before I play a game. Most of the time it’s quick and only done after an update but some games do take a long time.
Also having issues where Wine freezes up when running applications. Sometimes for close to two minutes before responding. I haven’t looked into this one yet as it just happened recently.
Bazzite with Nvidia GPU of this matters.
Non pain point not having the system install updates during my “focus” time and bringing the system to a crawl until I let it finish.
With the advancements in wine and proton, I’ve found a lot of games do well with adding -dx11 or -dx12 in the launch options.
Maybe a ticket could be made about considering changing the default for one of those programs
My friends play the finals and arc raiders and i tried both games on linux and they worked fine. Suddenly after an update both of the games (same developer) just don’t load anymore. They work if i dorce dx11 on them, but run like shit.
I think security wise linux can do better, I’d like to see more isolation of processes. I find accessibility is lacking as well, particularly translation and ocr software. I think this is actually something local visual ai models would be very good at but are not leveraged for in open source.
You can improve the security model by using SELinux, but not without hating yourself tbh
I think secureblue is probably the least painful way to make it a little tighter
I’m on Kinoite for a host of reasons but one reason I chose an atomic distros was isolation / containerizatoon. I’ll take a look at what secure blue adds and see if I can manually implement any of that in Kinoite
Can’t stream peacock to watch my motorsports. Resolved by unsubbing but I still wanna watch sometimes.
Nothing but there were some gpu issues with sleep signals on the newest Debian release. As it’s an always on server I turned those flags off and it’s running normally.
I wish I had Paintdotnet but my daily usage sees Krita work.
Things have gotten A LOT better since I started using it, but here’s a list of things I hate after using Arch with KDE as my main OS for almost 7 years:
- Not having an archive manager as good as 7-zip was on Windows. Ark is a good replacement but it supports less formats, has less options when compressing, and most importantly if you close the archive while extracting it silently fails (reported in 2019, still not fixed)
- You can’t make an account without a password (yes, I know I can configure the sudoers file and polkit to skip password prompts, but that’s not user friendly). For the average user, having to type the password after login is incredibly annoying, I would like to have something like the UAC prompt in Windows
- Wayland: it was made mainstream waaaay too early, causing a lot of issues with both Qt and GTK applications, some of which persist to this day, especially with fractional scaling and HDR
- Developers seem to think that I enjoy using the terminal: I don’t, I hate it. Why isn’t there a GUI for pacman supports the AUR and doesn’t suck?
- Random broken commits being pushed to stable. I’m talking about “how the f did you not notice this?” kind of bugs, like how I had to rename files twice in Dolphin before it would actually rename them. It was fixed quickly but how did this get into stable in the first place?
- Flatpak having its old ass version of mesa in the runtime, causing all sorts of issues if you have a newly released GPU. I stopped using it because of this
Running Arch when you hate the terminal and want stability is quite the mood.
What can I say, I’m a sucker for punishment 😂
I like having the latest (or at least recent) hardware so having the latest kernel and mesa is a must.
Developers don’t think you enjoy using the terminal. It’s just the option that works with the most systems with the least explanation. They can just give you a command to copy/paste instead of a tutorial on what buttons to click, assuming you even have that.
There are GUIs for package managers. I haven’t used one, because I feel like there’s no need, but they do exist. I don’t know if they support the AUR and pacman though. That probably exists, but you’ll have to look it up.
7-zip does have a linux CLI, which works well.
The most basic command you need to use is
7zz x archive-nameto extract an archive. Building a GUI around it doesn’t seem like it would be too much trouble honestly, wonder if anyone has done that.
80% of tools and tasks take about 20% more effort to get set up how I’d like them, which is fine - and even usually better because I can customize it more. However 20% of tools and tasks take 8,000% more effort to even work correctly, and I give up on half of them.
