Based on the description on their site, the controller includes a built-in battery: "8.39 Wh Li-ion battery​, 35+ hours of gameplay… "

That was disappointing for me. Specially condidering the Steam Frame’s controllers make use of AA batteries: “​One replaceable AA battery per controller, ​ 40hr battery life​”

AA Batteries might not be as convenient to use, but being able to replace them is a great advantage. All my Xbox360 controllers still work fine, but none of my PS3’ Dualshock 3s.

The official docking station could be used to recharge (rechargables) AA batteries so the functionality could remain the same.

  • mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works
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    All my Xbox360 controllers still work fine, but none of my PS3’ Dualshock 3s.

    An important thing to note is that the Steam Controller will be user-serviceable and they want to continue their partnership with ifixit

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    Non-rechargeable batteries is a terrible idea from an ecological point of view. Also, Steam have made considerable effort to make the Steam Deck repairable. I hope they do this with all their new hardware, so replacing the battery won’t be a big hassle.

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        5 months ago

        Outside of specialized uses like wanting a very long shelf life for rarely-used devices, I kind of thought that everyone had switched to rechargeable AA and AAA batteries years back.

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          I get people even here who just swear up and down it’s impooooooosible for them to switch for a littany of excuses. It costs too much (it doesn’t, it’s actually way cheaper), why would I put them in a remote? (Literally why wouldn’t you) They aren’t as convenient (compared to buying them at a store?). Or my favorite “they don’t work as well” ,which they don’t in maybe 5% of cases. So they could still replace 95% of their alkaline but let’s be real they just don’t want to even try.

          They’re still there, and usually it’s pure laziness, or just arrogance that they don’t care about the immense waste.

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            I mean, there are some legitimate reasons.

            • Non-rechargeable alkalines do have very low self-discharge rate, so they work well if you’re gonna stash a flashlight somewhere for a long time for emergencies.

            • The voltage on different types of batteries is not the same, and there are some devices with power supplies that cannot handle a wide-enough voltage range. I have a Grundig G6 shortwave radio, for example, which will not run on NiMH AA batteries (1.2V, rather than 1.5V alkalines or lithium). I suppose that I could get rechargeable lithium-ions, but I don’t really want to deal with rechargeables with different battery chemistry floating around, and my current battery charger can’t handle lithiums.

            I just remember the 1980s, where the norm was alkaline, and people had to buy the things all the time for all kinds of battery-powered devices. Was nice to be able to just recharge batteries at home. Can’t imagine wanting to do that today.

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      Non-rechargeable batteries is a terrible idea from an ecological point of view.

      Most people won’t replace an internal battery. If the battery dies, they buy a new controller.

      I’m not sure whether this is actually better for the environment than even if they were using non-rechargeables.

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      5 months ago

      I honestly really like them. Get a charger and some good batteries and you can go from 0 to 100% charge in a few seconds and the batteries will cost basically nothing in the long run.

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      5 months ago

      Yeah I love having non-user-replaceable batteries in my electronics devices to give them an inbuilt death timer.

      Very zeitgeist.

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        5 months ago

        Important to note that the controller is designed to be serviceable and Valve is partnering with a company to provide replacement parts.

        It sounds like it’ll be as hard to replace the battery as old smart phones were, which makes it very customer friendly.