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  • Jo Miran@lemmy.ml
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    It might not seem like it now but Vasquez was a groundbreaking character at the time.

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          She has the most iconic line from my youth.

          Some soldier, saying to Vasquez who’s doing pull-ups: hey Vasquez, you ever been mistaken for a man To which she replies: no, have you?

          Also the way

          she

          dies is bad ass.

          I mean next to Ripley, the android and the little girl, she’s the most memorable character in that movie.

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            She has the most iconic line from my youth.

            I got gifted a 4K Blu-ray player for Christmas. Immediately bought Aliens (my favourite movie of all time) then sat down with my older kids to watch it with popcorn etc.

            There was such a buzz in the room when she delivered that line.

            Have to recommend the 4K Blu-ray experience if you’re a fan. The detail honestly shocked me.

            Edit:

            I mean next to Ripley, the android and the little girl, she’s the most memorable character in that movie.

            The casting is great.

            I think Paul Riser did a great job as the slimy company man Burke. He was very believable.

            Michael Bien was great as Hudson Hicks too. The exchange between himself, Ripley and Burke about nuking the site was great.

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              1 month ago

              So? Just because it’s old doesn’t mean that everyone has seen it, nor that people don’t deserve to experience the movie the way we did.

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                1 month ago

                Anyone reading a movie trivia thread regarding a 40-yo movie should expect spoilers. C’mon.

      • orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        1 month ago

        Badass strong female character with more depth than what was normally portrayed in Hollywood. Ripley being another.

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          Ripley and Vasquez are antithetical. Vasquez’s strength comes from enbracing masculinity. She’s in a traditionally male profession, she’s stereotypically, “butch,” (short hair, muscular, etc.), she’s aggressive, and she belittles Ripley with her male peers. The film even calls attention to this early on (“Hey Vasquez, have you ever been mistaken for a man?”…“No. Have you?”). Meanwhile, Ripley is similarly a strong woman, but she doesn’t need to reject femininity to show strength. She weeps when she learns that her daughter died and later develops a maternal connection with Newt, but she’s more than capable of picking up a gun and giving orders when needed. She’s also in a traditionally male profession (which she demonstrates when she uses the power loader), but she doesn’t let that define her. She never seeks the approval of the male characters or behaves like them to achieve her goals.

          I’ve heard it argued that Vasquez is a sort of queer coded sheild for Ripley, allowing audiences to enjoy Ripley as a strong female character without worrying about her sexuality (“No, Ripley’s not a lesbian; that’s a lesbian.”), but I don’t think that’s fair to either character. Vasquez is a heroic character in her own right, not wanting abandon teammates and ultimately sacrificing herself so that others can escape. But the film is about motherhood, and Vasquez, just like all the other marines, isn’t capable of maternal behavior. I think in the end, Vasquez’s character is meant to demonstrate that Ripley is a bad-ass because of her femininity, not in spite of it.

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            Putting aside the conversation about sexuality, I think viewing Vasquez as emphasis for Ripley’s femininity downplays the importance they both have. You’re totally right that Ripley shows a strong woman that embraces feminine traits, but there’s a lot to say about a character that breaks gender norms. I think the line you brought up shows that Vasquez doesn’t reject femininity outright, she just chooses to present that differently.