Funny thing is dialup has been non viable for ~15 years if not more where I live. When you can get 100 mbit fibre for like $5 a month and it costs a whopping $12.5 dollars a month for a 1000 mbit fibre line, it makes no economic sense to offer dialup.
I’ve lived in Canada too. I was surprised to find the situation with broadband/cell phone services to be even less competitive (and more pricey) than in the US.
No I did everything in USD. It was a few years back so things might’ve changed but while I was still on Reddit I discussed it with some others and at least based on what they were saying, Canadian internet and phone prices were considerably higher than American. It doesn’t help that there’s a duopoly here.
Yeah, probably not. If your country is the size of a postage stamp, it doesn’t take a whole lot of capital investment to run fiber through the entire thing. Whereas if your country is the size of the United States, it takes a fuck ton of capital investment to cover even a decent portion of it by laying lines like that.
My country is as big as the US and we can get 500 Mbs fibre for $23, less than half what AT&T charges.
Is not the size of the country that make fibre costs to be so high in US, it’s unchecked, exploitative capitalism allowed by a corrupt plutocratic government.
You mean Canada? Or Australia? Countries where they are as big of a landmass but people dont actually live in remotely close to the entire thing? 95% of people in Canada live in a 100 mile stretch of the southern part of it. Australia is the same way with the coasts versus the interior… its not remotely comparable even if they are the same size on a technical basis
Brazil. Our population density map is not that different from the US, only it’s over one long shore, instead of three (four if you count the great lakes as a shore). Still, even deep into the Amazon region, like the city of Manaus, you can have 600 Mbps fibre for less than US$20.
Size of the country of population density is not the reason internet access is expensive in the US. Greed and corruption are.
I said absolutely nothing about government subsidies, and in another comment, further down the thread, I even said that if a company gets government subsidies to do so, and does not do so, they should be made to pay the money back with interest.
Funny thing is dialup has been non viable for ~15 years if not more where I live. When you can get 100 mbit fibre for like $5 a month and it costs a whopping $12.5 dollars a month for a 1000 mbit fibre line, it makes no economic sense to offer dialup.
Where the fuck do you get fiber for $12/month?? Not in the US I assume.
Of course not.
I remember when I first moved to the US and saw the broadband and cell phone prices. Corruption american style.
Don’t visit Canada then. American prices look dirt cheap compared to what we have here.
I’ve lived in Canada too. I was surprised to find the situation with broadband/cell phone services to be even less competitive (and more pricey) than in the US.
1gigabit is 80+ here yep.
Did you forget to convert back to USD and the number is just higher?
No I did everything in USD. It was a few years back so things might’ve changed but while I was still on Reddit I discussed it with some others and at least based on what they were saying, Canadian internet and phone prices were considerably higher than American. It doesn’t help that there’s a duopoly here.
You still didn’t answer where ;)
Sorry missed that. This is in Ukraine.
Yeah, probably not. If your country is the size of a postage stamp, it doesn’t take a whole lot of capital investment to run fiber through the entire thing. Whereas if your country is the size of the United States, it takes a fuck ton of capital investment to cover even a decent portion of it by laying lines like that.
My country is as big as the US and we can get 500 Mbs fibre for $23, less than half what AT&T charges.
Is not the size of the country that make fibre costs to be so high in US, it’s unchecked, exploitative capitalism allowed by a corrupt plutocratic government.
You mean Canada? Or Australia? Countries where they are as big of a landmass but people dont actually live in remotely close to the entire thing? 95% of people in Canada live in a 100 mile stretch of the southern part of it. Australia is the same way with the coasts versus the interior… its not remotely comparable even if they are the same size on a technical basis
Brazil. Our population density map is not that different from the US, only it’s over one long shore, instead of three (four if you count the great lakes as a shore). Still, even deep into the Amazon region, like the city of Manaus, you can have 600 Mbps fibre for less than US$20.
Size of the country of population density is not the reason internet access is expensive in the US. Greed and corruption are.
Incomes are lower in Brazil so they have to have lower prices. Avg income in the US is 4x that of Brazil.
https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Brazil/United-States/Cost-of-living
I wouldn’t point fingers at the US from Brazil when it comes to corruption.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_in_Brazil
Canada has even worse competition and higher prices than the states lol
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Bullshit excuses. They were given bank ass roll to build that shit out proper and just pocketed it.
I said absolutely nothing about government subsidies, and in another comment, further down the thread, I even said that if a company gets government subsidies to do so, and does not do so, they should be made to pay the money back with interest.
I’m just talking about the reality of what happened in the US, not some hypothetical
Less to do with absolute size and more to do with urban density and population concentration.
No shit. I pay $60/mo for gigabit, and I thought that was a good deal…
No American would spell fiber that way.
The are large portions on the US where there’s dialup or satellite only.