• taladar@sh.itjust.works
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    5 days ago

    Even if he gets ousted, the US has lost the trust of most other nations already. Regaining that will take years.

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      If ever. I think the US highly underestimates the aversion a huge number of people have towards a country condoning and aiding genocide.

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      4 days ago

      Decades. Lifetimes, even.
      The US has shown that it’s not a reliable partner. Sure, the next pres might be sane, but what about the one after that? They’ve shown they’re more than happy to elect a con man and do sfa to keep him in check - they’ve done it twice now, so it’s near 100% that they’ll do it again.

      The entire USA is in FO stage of FAFO, and now China and Europe will be the players to watch. I mean, other than watching the US flush itself down the toilet to own the Libs, obvs.

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        5 days ago

        Is he, though? He looks more like the final result of decades of very deliberate work by certain groups in the US political establishment that started with Reagan or possibly even earlier who put specific types of people on the Supreme Court, extended presidential executive order powers, gerrymandered, sabotaged political education, established think tanks and propaganda networks,…

        They might have gotten a bit more chaos than they wished for but to think Trump ended up as president by complete accident would be naive and other nation’s top politicians (and their own advisors) are not that naive.

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          Yes, he is, his whole appeal is that he’s an outsider. And Reagan was also an outlier, he was an actor that decided to get into politics.

          Trump ending up as President in 2016 was largely an accident. You can see the complete 180 by media orgs and the top brass of the GOP once he got the nomination as evidence of that. They had all geared up for a Jeb Bush nomination, and that obviously never materialized. 2024 was a bit more intentional, because he wanted to run again and nobody in the party really dared stand in his way.

          That said, Trump is very much an outsider and got elected mostly on that basis. He’s a result of a decade or two of frustrations w/ the establishment, and now we’re seeing what that actually looks like. His approval rating took a serious hit during the tariff nonsense, and it’s only back now that he’s not doing what he promised to do. I don’t think Americans really want what he has to offer, they just want something different from what they got before. I would be very surprised if he retains a reasonable approval rating through the midterms, so many of his campaign promises are likely to end in disaster, and he needs to show some kind of progress on those promises for his party to have a shot next year.

          So yeah, I think in a year or two, most people would agree that he’s an outlier.