Out of pure curiosity, since both countries are conscripting soldiers: what would you expect Ukraine to do? Lay down and take it? Lose their country? What do you think your country would do if it were invaded by another country? Would your country fight back or would it lay down and take it?
If the majority of my country wanted the war to end through negotiation and only 24% wanted to keep fighting, I would be fucking pissed if my country started kidnapping people off the street to die on the front line.
Russia has shown it is not willing to negotiate in good faith, every “negotiation” has been for them to keep everything they wanted, stolen from the other country. Would you surrender to an invading country even if you knew it would end poorly? Your link right there just says that they want it to end. Of course they do. That is not what would happen if they give up fighting. They have tried the “agreement” thing before and it hasn’t worked at any point. The overall lack of information in your post link pretty much makes you sound like a Russian shill. Just FYI
Now do one about Russia. Maybe the one about tricking foreigners to fight for them? Conscripting tons of people from areas outside Moscow? How about the ones where they refuse to pay out benefits to surviving family members?
“Things wouldn’t be so bad if they just stopped resisting. Why don’t they? They don’t want to fight, statistically.”
I’m amazed at how often the “rapist argument” pops up on Lemmy, in respect to Ukraine.
Yeah, maybe their civilian population is sick of war, and they don’t want to be drafted. And maybe Ukraine should make their own decisions/have their sovereignty respected. But, you know, disrespecting their sovereignty is the whole reason this is happening.
So even if you are unquestionably right, what the heck does it matter? Russia doesn’t care what Ukraine thinks, nor anything about their sovereignty and decision making power, otherwise they wouldn’t have launched a massive military invasion Ukraine clearly did not consent to.
I mean, you can only kidnap people off the street to die on the frontline for so long until the country collapses completely.
Yeah. Hopefully Russia collapses soon
Lmao
You must have misread, he said hopefully Russia collapses soon.
I read very clearly.
Out of pure curiosity, since both countries are conscripting soldiers: what would you expect Ukraine to do? Lay down and take it? Lose their country? What do you think your country would do if it were invaded by another country? Would your country fight back or would it lay down and take it?
If the majority of my country wanted the war to end through negotiation and only 24% wanted to keep fighting, I would be fucking pissed if my country started kidnapping people off the street to die on the front line.
https://sfg.media/en/a/ukrainians-want-end-war-gallup-poll/
Russia has shown it is not willing to negotiate in good faith, every “negotiation” has been for them to keep everything they wanted, stolen from the other country. Would you surrender to an invading country even if you knew it would end poorly? Your link right there just says that they want it to end. Of course they do. That is not what would happen if they give up fighting. They have tried the “agreement” thing before and it hasn’t worked at any point. The overall lack of information in your post link pretty much makes you sound like a Russian shill. Just FYI
So fuck democracy when it comes to war?
You do not.
Yes I do
Now do one about Russia. Maybe the one about tricking foreigners to fight for them? Conscripting tons of people from areas outside Moscow? How about the ones where they refuse to pay out benefits to surviving family members?
I presume you’re talking about Putler’s drafting techniques?
Russia empty his jail and lot of other stuff but they aren’t the one that deseperetly need new meat for the frontline
I can tell you don’t read the news much!
I can tell you don’t read that much!
Thank you for all the attention :)
Better resist and collapse than do nothing and collapse
Only a quarter of Ukrainians want to keep fighting, yet they are using forced conscription to put civilians on the front line.
“Things wouldn’t be so bad if they just stopped resisting. Why don’t they? They don’t want to fight, statistically.”
I’m amazed at how often the “rapist argument” pops up on Lemmy, in respect to Ukraine.
Yeah, maybe their civilian population is sick of war, and they don’t want to be drafted. And maybe Ukraine should make their own decisions/have their sovereignty respected. But, you know, disrespecting their sovereignty is the whole reason this is happening.
So even if you are unquestionably right, what the heck does it matter? Russia doesn’t care what Ukraine thinks, nor anything about their sovereignty and decision making power, otherwise they wouldn’t have launched a massive military invasion Ukraine clearly did not consent to.
Lmfao, democracy is rape now, folks.
I am going to remember this next time a western power invades someone to “defend democracy.”
I’m sure you’re protesting the invasion of Iran right this moment, lmao
Yes. Yes, I am! It’s a shitshow, and whether we like the country or not, Iran at least deserves to have its sovereignty recognized.
Good work, proud of you! Are you American? Which protest are you marching in?
War is hell. Too much suffering affect people rational thinking and the majority lose the will to fight.
I’m sure they’re thrilled that you want them to fight til the last Ukrainian.
I want Russia to stop treating Ukraine as part of Russia and widhdraw from occupied territories so ukrainians do not have to fight till the last one
Why does it matter what you want if you don’t live in either country?
Humanity. Do you live in Russia?
What matters is who pays him ;)
Hell no
You sure putin isn’t fighting to the last Russian?
Either way he’s got a lot more
Did Ukraine lose the war yet?
Do you condone kidnapping people off the street to die on the frontline in a majority unpopular war?
Guess they didn’t. Maybe in another three days?
Show me a source on anyone in the Russian military saying three days, lol.
Yeah, turns out winning a war is hard. Tell me when Ukraine loses!
P.S. sucks about those oil refineries. Flammable, ain’t they?
No source?
And yeah it’s a huge ecological disaster, almost as bad as what the Americans did to those oil tankers in Iran!
What source? Did Ukraine lose the war now?