• DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world
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    It seems that according to your political morality, Hitler, every member of the SS, every guard in Auschwitz, every other member of the Nazi Party, and every other German who didn’t make it out of the country or didn’t want to wind up in prison or dead in a probable futile fight, is equally bad.

    Meanwhile Churchill, every British soldier, every other citizen of United Kingdom, including every Nazi sympathizer and/or imperialist is equally good.

    No American can talk about another country’s bad deeds because what America is doing.

    America had no business invading Nazi Germany, until they first got rid of their racism, and maybe paid restitution for slavery and return territory to the indigenous.

    UK had no business invading Nazi Germany until they allowed their territories in Africa and Asia to go independent. Hitler murdered Jews and Slavs, Churchill murdered Bengalis.

    Similar with France. How dare they fight against Vichy when they fought against anti-imperialists in Algeria.

    Who murdered more Ukrainians? Hitler or Stalin? Maybe the Western allies such as the US should have let them fight it out.

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      is equally bad.

      No, and that’s a strawman. But the Americans who are sitting back going “well I voted for Kamala, it’s not MY problem” are bad. And that’s all I said.

      The rest of your nonsense is the same strawman.

      Who murdered more Ukrainians? Hitler or Stalin?

      Hitler.

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        (my bold)

        No, and that’s a strawman. But the Americans who are sitting back going “well I voted for Kamala, it’s not MY problem” are bad. And that’s all I said.

        what you said:

        https://lemmy.world/post/51348178/25602197

        Yeah - until I see George W Bush hanging in The Hague, Americans should probably shut the fuck up about their advice to other countries on how to deal with war criminals.

        The rest of your nonsense is the same strawman.

        Perhaps in other words, you can’t be bothered trying to refute what I posted.

        Who murdered more Ukrainians? Hitler or Stalin?

        Hitler.

        You’re probably right.

        wp:Holodomor

        Around 3.5 to 5 million in Ukraine; see death toll

        wp:World War II casualties of the Soviet Union#Estimated losses by Soviet republic

        6,850,000

        So I guess neither the Germans in the 1940s were in any position to criticize the Soviets over Holodomor, nor the Russians in the 1930s were in any position to criticize Ukraine.

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          Meh, you want to dive into the Holodomor - there were even larger amounts of famine deaths in other SSRs, so depends what you’re calling “murdered”. Whereas the Nazi extermination campaign in Ukraine was purposeful murder.

          you can’t be bothered trying to refute what I posted

          That you equate different things and therefore decide that you magically are in the right?

          Wow, amazing that.

          Meanwhile your war criminals are running around free. Donald Rumsfeld died in his bed, Georgie is painting soldiers. How many dead from their war?

          So I guess

          Yes, I think you spend lots of time doing that.