• Vandals_handle@lemmy.world
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    5 days ago

    Doctors Without Borders, legal aid society, Plenty of credentialed professionals volunteer their services as well.

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      I can’t help wondering how Doctors Without Borders survive while spending all their time working for $0.

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      That’s why I said “typically”. You didn’t address the issue. 0.1% of doctors volunteer for doctors without borders. People will take issue with one person needing 12 years of schooling or having to work in awful conditions, that will be making the same as someone driving a forklift around a warehouse all day. Saving someone’s life as an ER surgeon is not the same as being a delivery driver. How will you address the discrepancy?

      Do you not see the issue people will have with that kind of societal system?? Or are you just ignoring it on purpose because there is no good answer?

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        People will take issue with one person needing 12 years of schooling or having to work in awful conditions, that will be making the same as someone driving a forklift around a warehouse all day.

        That statement does not describe UBI. The whole “volunteer” line of discussion is absurd.

        The doctor and the forklift driver will receive the same UBI check, as will an unemployed person. The doctor will also receive a paycheck from an employer for their labor. The forklift driver will also receive a paycheck from an employer for their labor. The unemployed person will only receive the UBI check.

        Imagine the country as a publicly traded company, where each citizen holds exactly one share of common stock. Imagine that company pays a monthly dividend on that share. That “Citizenship Dividend” is UBI. Just because you are a “shareholder” doesn’t mean that check is your sole source of income. That check is not the compensation for your labor. That check is the compensation for the government’s use of your political authority in a democratic system.

        That check should be for an amount that provides “subsistence” income to the general public. Basic subsistence. Not gainful earnings. Gainful earnings come from compensation for labor. The forklift driver will be earning gainfully as soon as he clocks in on Monday morning, not Thursday afternoon, after having worked most of the work for subsistence. The doctor will be earning gainfully when she clocks in Monday morning, not Monday afternoon, after having worked the morning for subsistence.

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          Oh? Yet I don’t see you telling me what the number of doctors who’ve donated their time to doctors without borders is vs the total number of doctors in the U.S… Which is why I had to look for it myself, and I found it’s less than .1%. Sorry about your narrative :(

          And I’ll place you in the “ignoring it because you don’t have a good answer” category then.

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      5 days ago

      Only because their basic needs are already met by the income of, you know, their regular professional job.