Would be a terrible shame if lots of people opted out.
If you are a EU citizen you might also want to write a complaint to privacy@huggingface.co because they are collecting your personally identifiable information in machine-readable form which they are distributing to third parties.
Much like… -reads notes- Microsoft is via Github… huh…
Gothub.com is a thing now for OpenBSD’s Game of Trees project.
It’s gothub.org. You linked to some dumb AI startup.
It’s a sure sign of a bubble that a URL typo coincidentally brings one to a completely unrelated page for a completely unknown, in-beta AI startup with a dumb idea.
We want to give developers agency over their source code by letting them decide whether or not it should be used to develop and evaluate machine learning models.
fuck them seriously; if you want to do that then don’t steal the repositories in the first place.
Meanwhile at work we just had a training course that specifically said doing “opt out” instead of “opt in” violates the principle of informed consent.
not surprising since the venn diagram of ai bros and rapists is a circle.
Notice how a shit load of these people keep turning up to be rapists and pedophiles… They have no shits to give about informed consent. In their mind you don’t even have the right to the same agency they do.
don’t steal the repositories
How is this remotely stealing?
It’s not, but it may be violation of licenses. And also, if it has personal information on it, that’s probably illegal under the GDPR.
the method on github is to fork it not steal all the data in an external storage for external purposes without consent of the user.
edit: you can also report their whole account to github here: https://support.github.com/contact/report-abuse?category=report-abuse&report=bigcode-project&report_id=110470554&report_type=user
I’m pretty sure they just cloned the repos. That’s how GitHub is designed to work. Have you never cloned a repo from GitHub?
Yes, but I used it under the licence terms of the original developer.
So have they. They filter by license - see my other comment.
It doesn’t seem that way. My list contains several repositories that don’t have licenses, even some with GPL.
Kinda hope it uses my code. It’s so terrible there’s no doubt it will make the resulting code from the model worse even if the impact is miniscule
I just opted out of all my repos except the God awful ones from middle and highschool. Those are basically prompt poison so fuckem
I never really needed any justification, but ever since AI companies just take stuff illegally, and that openly, it has become my justification to just pirate the shit out of everything.
(Excluding indie games of developers I like).
It should have been anyways. Like what the fuck were you all doing on the internet. Trying to sell your stupid art. Helping corporations steal data and build pay walls so you can earn $500/month selling your kitchy Garfield key chains. The internet should have always been about data replication and sharing. It’s too late to put that cat back in the bag. It was suppose to be stopped 20 years ago. Now we have all this stuff ruining the world and bringing back nazis. But at least the lefty capitalist artist sold some key chains
But at least the lefty capitalist artist sold some key chains
Selling your shit and getting paid doesn’t make you into a capitalist. At most you’re an artisan, if you own your tools and you get paid for your final product rather than your labour hours.
To be a capitalist you necessarily need to own capital. In the example you picked you’d need to own a factory where you underpay people to and keep the surplus from all the keychains they produce.
And regardless of what you meant, you’re absolutely barking at the wrong tree here, market consolidation and monopolies predate the internet, and they would have always had the final say in how we shape our infrastructure and share shit online under capitalism.
I fought hard for net neutrality, a lot of us did. We don’t matter.
Which goes to my point. You fought wrong. What i see is that the left is very likely manipulated by right wing interest groups way more than people want to admit. I think for decades now, they have targeted leftist online for issues we traditionally dominated and redirected people into areas that were very ineffective. Meanwhile they socially engineered the right side and MAGA to actually effective social engagement. After decades the left is just a dead in the water idea with people who no longer know how to use the internet correctly for social engineering and engagement. The only time the left rallies is when the effort is the most high effort, high energy, low reward movement people could possibly imagine.
The left in the past were intelligent intellectual building and innovating things. That is no longer the case. We’re resting on the laurels of the best and looking around at lemmy should make it very obvious how true this is.
The sad reality i think people need to understand its the MAGA isn’t winning just because of money. They’re wining because they’re putting effort in areas that the left don’t even realize are important. They are playing chess and the left aren’t even playing because competition makes the left feel anxious.
I have multiple people in my life on the right who spend all their time online posting and networking and planning. They will shit post all day. Between the 3 of them, they probably create tons of content. Let alone sharing and promoting others content.
People on the left I know will read an article. Can’t be bothered to share or even upvote. Maybe they’ll write a comment like “This sucks, Trump is stupid” and then they go look for star trek memes all day. Give this behavior 20 years for the kids today to grow up. The global cultural image of the left right now is a weak, gutless screaming loser who nobody wants to admit to being outside of small circles. Kids today hate the left. It’s going to get so much worse.
I hope you’re wrong, but not much hope :(
Me too.
My point here isn’t to shit on the left just to shit on them. It’s to at least get discussion if not find others who see it too. I think we’re asleep. Maybe hoping if we just play the ethical long game that maybe it’ll all return. In my mind we’re standing on the beach watching the tide recede after an earthquake. Like most thing stuff is weird, but they’re not really tracking that they need to start acting now if it isn’t already too late.
My hope is people get a fire under there ass and first admit that we have fucked up and it’s time to start firing up our own grass roots efforts. Download gimp. Get back on social media since we were never going to make a dent in their profits. Start using all these tools even AI to resist and present a front against these modern nazis. Play fucking dirty if we have to. People bitch about money but that money is only doing what we do for fun. Instead of obsessing about beans and moths, let’s get back to being political and taking ground.
Lemmy could be a staging ground with the way it is built. Because when a site is a threat, they’ll use every capitalist lever they can to squash it. They’ll bring in moderation teams. They’ll bring in ads. They’ll bring in the tools we didn’t resist. And if they do, we stand up a new instance without that shit. But we gotta do something to fire us up or it is only going to get worse.
Some of these are good points, and I’ve got a tool to recommend: Fedica.
I use it to schedule my posts in advance and post on social media without actually having to be on it all the time.
This specifically isn’t illegal though. They’ve only scraped public repos.
That depends on the license. Music is also available on Youtube without authentication requirements but I don’t think you can just download those and do whatever you want with them.
Find me a repo on GitHub with a license that disallows cloning it. I’ll wait.
Any repo without a license disallows reproducing it in any way, which includes cloning it for business purposes.
The only exception is that public repositories can be forked on GitHub as new GitHub repositories. Forking doesn’t give you a license to use or reproduce the code, though.
Could be wrong, but the act of downloading music isn’t what gets people in trouble, it’s the uploading. When people torrent both happen, but afaik it’s only the uploading portion that is actually bad.
This depends, but not because of piracy. If you have to bypass DRM to download the music, you may be violating DMCA §1201 (even if you are otherwise allowed to use the music).
Edit: This obviously doesn’t apply to GitHub, but might to YouTube.
When people torrent only a part of the file is being shared by all peers. Technically only the original seeder shared the whole thing and after a few seeders it’s a tiny portion of the file.
We want to give developers agency over their source code by letting them decide whether or not it should be used to develop and evaluate machine learning models.
crawled directly from GitHub and built to pre-train code LLMs with full-repository context
Repositories that opted out are removed from the dataset before each patch release.
“agency”
Which AI company will not use v1 which has all of the data but will use later patch releases instead which have less data?
Or just merge it
Scraping without consent steals developer personalIP.
I just followed the opt out link and they’re making you open a public issue with a Markdown list with all your repositories you want removed.
Surely there has to be a better way to do this (probably the point).
Also why are they storing 4.71 TB in a Git repo? How are they going to deal with removal requests?
EDIT: It seems like they’re manually responding to the issues, wtf? There’s a perfectly fine GitHub auth system that they could use to verify everyone’s GitHub account / repository ownership
EDIT 2: This is apperently a collaboration between Hugging Face and ServiceNow, why is my companies IT ticketing system scraping all of GitHub?
with a Markdown list with all your repositories you want removed.
The repo readme linked FAQ says
You can choose to request either (1) all repos, or (2) you can specify select repos that you own to be removed.
so “all of them” should be acceptable
A decade ago, if someone asked someone working on an Open Source project if they’d be ok with an AI reading their code and learning from it, they’d most likely say “yeah that sounds really cool!”
Somehow the tech-bros have fucked up AI so much that something that should be really cool seems creepy, lame, and nefarious all at once.
Making arguments from popular perception is never very strong. AI is cool if you actually think about it - the capability is incredible. Anything that can produce working code was going to have this ambivalent result where execs pushed it way too hard.
Yup, the idea is good. How this this idea is being implemented… not so much.
Simultaneously they have created the part I wanted from Star Trek, while making the worst possible anti star trek a reality.
E.g.
I want to be able to ask a computer about history, art, codeing, well anything. And be able to clarify and question and put together new ideas.
But not by anyone owning that ability or profiting on the labor of others or causing environmental harm.
We got the cool computer but haven’t achieved the post-scarcity part.
I don’t think you can have one without the other.
Post-scarcity isn’t actually possible. Not even in Star Trek this is true. Picard’s family owns a vineyard in France filled with artifacts and antiques. Not everything is fungible. People will desire these non-fungible things. Not everyone that desires these things will be able to have them, because they aren’t fungible. You can’t have a billion people all owning vineyards in France. Some people won’t get everything they want. There will always be scarcity.
Star Trek was made in the 1960’s at the height of the cold war. They didn’t want the show to be about how capitalism was superior to communism, or vice versa. So they side stepped the issue by saying in the future there’s no scarcity, no money, and they live under some ideal future economic model. The show writers don’t know what that ideal economic model is, so it’s deliberately vague and inconsistent. And that’s fine because the show isn’t about economics.
It was wise of the writers of Star Trek to avoid trying to make predictions of that nature. 300 years ago, Wealth of Nations wasn’t yet written, the field of economics didn’t really exist. They believed shiny rocks had intrinsic value. They had some vibes about things like currency devaluation and inflation, but economics was still mostly about acquiring shiney rocks 300 years in the past. So what will economics be like 300 years in the future? None of us know, and certainly writers of a TV show don’t know.
The writers of a TV show saying there will be no scarcity in the future just means they didn’t want to discuss economics. It’s not any kind of prediction about the future. There will always be scarcity.
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they can do whatever they want to do with my code.
as long as it’s complaint to AGPL v3 :D
(doubt ai companies care about that)
When I hear this company’s name I can’t get the idea out of my head that it’s related to the face huggers from Alien.
From the linked webpage readme:
2.1 Classify. Each file is labelled permissive (at least one permissive license detected, no conflicting non-permissive license), no_license (no licenses detected, or only non-license legal texts such as CLAs), or non_permissive. The permissive allowlist follows the Blue Oak Council list plus licenses categorized as Permissive or Public Domain by ScanCode. Files classified as non_permissive are excluded from both released datasets.
From https://www.bigcode-project.org/docs/about/the-stack/:
v1.1: The three copyleft licenses (MPL/EPL/LGPL) were excluded and the list of permissive licenses extended to 193 licenses in total. The list of programming languages was increased from 30 to 358 languages. Also opt-out request submitted by 15.11.2022 were excluded from this ersion of the dataset. The resulting near-deduplicated dataset is 6TB in size.
So MPL/EPL/LGPL are already not part of the dataset.
So… why were they in there? Was this added for v1.1?
“one permissive license” - So if my project includes a lib and I include the license file for that for the license notice…?
Noteworthy: They crawled only the default branch HEAD and inlined all source content.
- The file contents are included inline. The decoded UTF-8 source text is embedded directly in the dataset, so it is fully self-contained — you can start training the moment the download finishes.
- It reflects the state of GitHub in August 2025. The corpus is a direct crawl of GitHub repositories at their default-branch HEAD, capturing roughly two additional years of open-source code compared to The Stack v2.
The best way to opt out is by not using GitHub. Also opts you out of Copilot and a bunch of other stuff.
Other git hosts are also getting scraped, and have had to implement counters because of it. For example, this is the kind of thing Codeberg shows crawlers. I’ve even seen people who self-host complaining about getting overloaded because of bots scraping their forge
I’ve put Anubis before most of my website, including my forgejo instance. For the projects hosted there, which is not all, I can only hope that that’s enough.
I like to have the visibility and CI of GitHub. But this sucks ass.
note that former users would have needed to remove their GitHub data before August 2025 to not be in this dataset
Am I alone in not wanting to put my username into that field? If they don’t have it will they then just decide that it’s now a good time to scrape it? Or are they going to record that it was searched?
A little bit infuriating since huggingface itself requires login to access a large portion of the content on their site
tbh i’m thinking this alone isn’t that bad from an archiver/datahoarder perspective
As long as the datasets are open, it is our best hope. I know it doesn’t compensate the people whose work’s copyright and licenses have been violated, but I think it’s the only realistic hope we’ve got of getting out of this informational dystopia with a reasonably intact library of humanity’s knowledge that hasn’t been locked down and/or monetized. The AI scrapers and generators are in the process of burning down the great library of Alexandria that the Internet had become, and we are already starting to feel its loss. We cannot stop the wave of toxic pollution that is spreading through all our digital content now, but the archives from before this apocalypse started will become the most valuable thing humanity has ever produced. This is information war, and we are losing.
