• Big_Boss_77@lemmy.world
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        5 days ago

        Left a job of 10 years, project lead senior engineer, because fuckers FAFO’d an RTO. Of a team of 5, I was one they expected to stay because I was “close to the office”. I was the first one to find a new, full time remote job.

        Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

    • stickyprimer@lemmy.world
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      4 days ago

      I’m sure there is a little truth to it sometimes but one big thing this ignores is that many of us have always had remote coworkers because our employer has multiple offices in different cities, countries, and continents around the world. I’m not worried about someone who’s in the office with my boss passing me by because that’s a tiny minority of everyone we work with anyway.

      Interestingly, this is also why WFH has held up at the company where I work. Even when you go in to the office, you spend half the day on zoom. Our company has consolidated floors, closed whole offices and entire campuses to reduce the amount of real estate it pays to maintain. There’s a lot of savings in it for them. And our CEO has said that he likes how remote work makes it trivial to get the entire leadership team together for a conversation because they aren’t all flying around the world constantly, inaccessible for days at a time because they’re traveling. They do make in person visits, but don’t live on planes like they used to. They also did the math and they exceeded their 10 year goal for climate reduction overnight just by going to remote.

      There are so many benefits for the company as well as the employees that I’m really confused why some companies go all RTO. Probably they just don’t have good systems in place to know who’s doing their job. We do.

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      4 days ago

      How is that bullshit? People do like to give promotions to other people they like, sometimes irrelevant of talent. Look at literally all non-democratic governments.

      And it’s no secret random conversations not about work happen a lot more in person. These are the kind of conversations that make friendships, not the 1 on 1 with your manager on teams.

      This is why most sane companies don’t force you to do 4 days but instead make it so that if you only have to do 2 days at the office, they’re the same 2 days of the week for everyone to avoid the situation in this post.

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        4 days ago

        So incompetent management promoting the people who suck up to them (their “friends”) rather than based on results and how well people are competing their tasks.
        Sounds like a shit company/manager to work for. Better off finding another job.

        Also, people tend to get promoted faster by switching employers. Don’t fall for the lie of “company loyalty”.