• 🍉 DrRedOctopus 🐙🍉@lemmy.world
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    11 days ago

    there, you’re getting too philosophical and abstract.

    fire isn’t alive, isn’t cannot evolve, no evolution… and you’re definitely failing biology.

    point is that the highschool definition is bs, no biologist uses it, yet you’re stubbornly stick to it like a contrarian.

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      10 days ago

      Again. Alive isn’t biological.

      You’re very hung up on only biological things being alive. Which is strange when you yourself said biology has not good definition.

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        10 days ago

        Biology is the study is life.

        If it is alive, it is under the purview of Biology.

        what you’re doing, is trying to fit anything that fits the Highschool definition as alive. and you end up with chemistry rather than life.

        You are very hunged up on highschool oversimplifications.

        if fire is alive, would using a lighter count as abiogenesis?

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          10 days ago

          there’s no biological definition for life.

          Biology is the study of life.

          Do you see how that doesn’t work?

          Biologists called themselves “The Study of Life”, some 200 years ago. They did so with very little knowledge, and lots of ambition. Also known as hubris.

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              10 days ago

              its a “you know it when you see it” kind of thing

              I’m not sure you’re a good advocate for the sciences.

              I also think you might have reading comprehension issues. I did explain, I think four times, how fire isn’t technically alive, but in certain circumstances it can be a useful analogy. I don’t know why you keep banging on that drum.

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                  10 days ago

                  I explained that.
                  See. You didn’t actually read what I wrote. You’re not good at this.

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                    10 days ago

                    you just said it can be considered alive, but then you say isn’t

                    my point is simple, ask anyone with a biology degree,. that highschool definition is oversimplified and not useful. there is no working definition of life