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The Ministry of Justice is developing a system that aims to ‘predict’ who will commit murder, as part of a “data science” project using sensitive personal data on hundreds of thousands of people.
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Why are they rebooting “Minority Report?” The Tom Cruise version was excellent, we don’t need a new one.
Thought crimes. Neat.
So what’s the plan after that? You can’t arrest people until after they commit the crime. Otherwise it gets confusing.
The UK isn’t the US, the government can’t just do whatever it wants and get away with it.
Stop falling for the liberal trap that laws and bureaucracy will somehow magically save you from fascism. It won’t. This is just the start. They’re slowly warming you all up to it until it’s going to be too late. There’s no such thing as “This can’t happen here!”. It definitely can, and it definitely will if you don’t organise and stop it.
I’ve read through the entire article and I can’t find anywhere where it says that they will actually be acting in the data. It also says in the article that this project was started by the conservatives not labour so again I don’t necessarily think there’s cause for concern right now. Also the fact the government even responded to the freedom of information request seems to suggest that it isn’t actually a secret project.
Shit like that needs to be stopped while it’s just someone’s wild wet dreams. When it will become solid plans with budget and deadlines, it will already be too late
It would be hilarious to see random civilians being casually followed by a policeman (policeperson?), overtly and cheerfully “nah mate, you haven’t done a thing. I’m just here to watch. For now. Carry on.”
Yet.
Aha the “it might happen” argument, used to justify pretty much any amount of pearl clutching that one feels is necessary.
I’m not saying it’s impossible but just saying it might happen and then providing no actual evidence as to why that might happen doesn’t really constitute an argument. We might have super intelligent AI by next month, but we probably won’t so I’m not going to worry about it.
Is it gonna be a list of all the police and military?
No silly, not after they input race.
It’s the minority report wtf
hey lets feed the guessing machine crime data generated from policing by a bunch of racist ass cops. No way will the resulting “predictions” be racist
at first i thought your suggestion was to feed the machine racist cops to find them and got all hyped ):
Didn’t they try this in Florida and it basically became officers harassing the fuck out of a teenage kid and his mom at all hours of the night?
E: yeah, fuck this shit.
Is Tom Cruise going to run the program?
Call it Minority Report
Because they will inevitably target minorities?
Because of the early 2000’s movie Minority Report that has this exact same plot and is starred by Tom Cruise.
I feel it’s time for a remake, maybe turn the three
sistersprecogs into 3 AI computers?maybe turn the three sisters
Two of the three precogs were boys, by the way.
I definitely need to rewatch this movie again.
It’s just institutional racism with extra steps
Niooce.
Hey, remember when pre-musk twitter had to turn off their extremism automod for republican politicians because they were constantly spewing the same patterns of extremist content that actual ISIS-supporting accounts were?
Pepperidge Farm remembers.
I’m not superstitious, but I’m starting to think that the 30s are cursed, the closer we get to them the worse Europe gets.
Yeah, can’t say that I disagree
Reminder to watch Minority Report again… I don’t even remember whether that movie was any good or not
Can’t believe that movie is looking to become a reality in my lifetime.
It’s great!
As a data engineer:
Number of subreddits banned from?..site wide, that’s a lot of subreddits lol.
And it will say people of lower economic classes and foreign origin are the biggest risk. Will action be taken to help these people? Nah. This is just going to be a technological excuse for some good ol’ repression.
570 recorded homicides between March 2023 and 2024.
Data on “hundreds of thousands” of people can’t provide the distinguishing markers to even have a stab at this.
It can reliably predict when people are black, though.
It can predict blackness with up to 63% accuracy!
Is 63% significant?
If I was clever I might have said 60%
Because 3/5
Eh that’s more of a US thing
1/e is about 37%, maybe 1-1/e?
a stab
I see what you did there 😄
Oh boy! …Here we go, dropping a new Dystopia again!
So… What happens when it is wrong?
We find out the guy running the tool has been manipulating it and is the murderer.
Touché, indeed.
No it is never wrong, just super early. Just arrest people at 18 for crime they will do at 60 obviously.
Precrime is here!
Precrime will be here!
Precrime will have had been here?
Precrime wioll haven be here.
Perhaps this is all just highly refined British humour?
The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy skips lightly over this tangle of academic abstraction, pausing only to note that the term “Future Perfect” has been abandoned since it was discovered not to be.
Precrime was here!
Postcrime will be there?
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